Agave Nectar and Xylitol — Good or Bad?

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I’ve been meaning to post about this ever since I read Rami Nagel’s very well-researched article in the Summer edition of Wise Traditions (Wise Traditions is the Weston A. Price Foundation magazine. If you are not a member, you should join — for only $40/year — just so you can get aricles like this one.).

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And now, on to agave nectar…

Rami Nagel did some pretty extensive and impressive research on agave nectar and xylitol for the article, and his findings were not favorable.

Shocking, I know, because many of us do use agave nectar as a sweetener — and xylitol in toothpaste (and other products).

Agave nectar is made from the agave plant, which is a cactus. Sound natural, right? Like maple syrup from a tree, or honey from a beehive.

Only it isn’t.

According to Rami, the modern agave nectar that you find in stores is highly processed and refined. This is not the same agave nectar that traditional people used to consume.

Not only that, but it’s very high in fructose.

Rami writes in his article:

“However, a major concern is the high level of free fructose in agave syrups — much higher than honey and maple syrup. Given what we now now about the deleterious effects of fructose compared to sucrose, honey and maple syrup would seem to be better choices than agave for home cooking.”

Fructose sounds like a good thing (sounds like fruit), but I heard Sally Fallon say that it’s not actually good for us.

Sally Fallon writes:

“Sugar, especially sucrose and fructose has been shown to shorten life in numerous animal experiments. Excessive use of sugar is associated with a rise in blood cholesterol, rise in triglycerides, increase in adhesiveness of the blood platelets, increase in blood insulin levels, etc. Numerous studies have positively correlated sugar consumption with heart disease. These results are far more positive than any of the studies linking heart disease and saturated fats. Moderate use of natural sweeteners is found in many traditional societies. We therefore recommended you satisfy your sweet tooth by eating fully ripened fruit in season and a limited use of natural sweeteners high in vitamins and minerals such as raw honey, dehydrated cane sugar juice (Sucanat) and maple syrup. Avoid all refined sugars including table sugar, brown sugar, corn syrup, fructose and large amounts of fruit juice. Source

But why is fructose specifically bad for us?

I found this very concise explanation on Kelly the Kitchen Kop’s blog — in the comments.

Anna who pens the wonderful blog, Going Against the Grain, wrote the following comment on Kelly’s post:

“People tend to think that fructose is a benign sugar, because it is named for fruit (because it was first discovered in fruit). But fructose is only one of the sugars in fruit and it occurs in rather small quantities, very unlike the high concentrations of fructose found in any man-made refined sugar (and IMO, even the raw, unheated agave syrups *are* processed and refined, as they are processed with enzymes and not found in nature, nor are they something that previous generations would have made).

Fructose in high concentrations or frequently ingested in high amounts, is very damaging to the body. First, if it isn’t burned immediately for energy, it goes to the liver, where it is converted to triglycerides, the very same fats in the blood associated with heart disease if chronically at high levels (and also accociated with the small lipoprotein particle size, also not considered good). High amounts of fructose on a constant basis can contribute to Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) which even children are getting now from all the fructose in their diets.

Secondly, the excess triglycerides are often stuffed into the fat cells, increasing insulin resistance, thereby increasing insulin production to very high levels, and contributing to the development of diabetes in a “back door” fashion.

Third, and worse, is that fructose contributes greatly to AGEs (advanced glycated endproducts), which are proteins that have inappropriately attached (without enzymes) sugars (wikipedia has great info on this plus one of my husband’s colleagues researchs glycation). Fructose is the worst for this. It sort of gums up the proteins so that the cell is damaged (sort of caramelized) so the cell can’t properly function (it literally ages faster). This is the cause of much of the damage in diabetic complications. Ironically, diabetics have been advised to use fructose for sweetening simply because it doesn’t directly cause a glucose or insulin spike. But indirectly, it does massive damage. But I won’t go on an ADA rant right now :-) .

Anyhow, I would recommend caution, for anyone, not just those with diabetes or potential for diabetes, with the use of agave syrup/nectar products as well as any highly concentrated sugars of all sorts (honey, maple syrup, any cane sugar or beet sugar product – refined or not. While humans do have a sweet tooth, they do not have a physiology that can handle constant access to concentrated sugars and frequent indulgence ; it is slowly causing damage at the cellular level.”

So that pretty much covers it for agave nectar.

But what about xylitol? Sorry, but Rami says it’s a no go.

“… this industrial product is just not necessary. Nature has provided us with many wholesome sweeteners that can be used in moderation without adverse effects in the context of a diet of nutrient-dense traditional foods.”

Bottom line: stick to maple syrup, raw honey, rapadura, palm sugar, and stevia.

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31 Comments on "Agave Nectar and Xylitol — Good or Bad?"

  1. cheeseslave
    Kelly the Kitchen Kop
    01/10/2008 at 2:11 am Permalink

    I wish I liked Stevia, but I can’t stand the stuff. I ruined a recipe with it once and still haven’t forgiven it.

    I can eat Rapadura in some things (perfect for cinnamon/sugar toast), but in baked goods I think it’s too strong.

    Good thing I love maple syrup and honey!

    What’s palm sugar?

  2. cheeseslave
    Ellen
    01/10/2008 at 6:07 am Permalink

    Kelly, I’ve noticed that not all stevias are the same. I’ve tried a few different brands myself and the only one I like is the KAL brand stevia. The others taste like butt. :)

  3. cheeseslave
    Kelly the Kitchen Kop
    01/10/2008 at 7:24 am Permalink

    Thanks Ellen, I’ll give that brand a try. :)

  4. cheeseslave
    Christine Kennedy
    01/10/2008 at 8:44 am Permalink

    Unfortunately, the only stevia that is actually good for you, is the unprocessed green stevia. Think about it. Stevia is a green herb. How does it get to be a white powder? Through extensive precessing. I have the NOW brand of plain green stevia leaf. And, the taste is not as strong as the white stuff.

    I like rapadura/sucanat in baked goods for replacing brown sugar, or in baked goods where chocolate can match the strong molasses flavour.

    Palm sugar is found in small “hockey pucks” in asian stores. It is an unrefined sugar from the palm/coconut tree. Very mild in taste. Jaggery/gur is another option. Found in indian stores, it is an unprocessed brown sugar that comes in soft cubes. Jessica Prentice, in her book, Full Moon Feast, recommends both of these sugars.

  5. cheeseslave
    Diane
    01/10/2008 at 9:45 am Permalink

    I tired Xylitol last year only to feel “sick” after using it. It seemed to actually make my Lyme symptoms worse. So, after talking to a couple people who have Lyme and use Xylitol, I thought I’d see how I felt this year…nope, this stuff is crap. I’d really like to know more about the study done on it. I guess I’ll have to back order that copy of Wise Traditions.

    I use Maple Syrup on occasion, but it’s really too sweet for me. I strictly stick (no pun) to “Really Raw Honey”. My friend did an experiment using it and found that it does not cause ones blood sugar levels to rise. Not all “raw honey” is truly raw!!!

    Stevia did the same thing to me that Xylitol did. I feel sick afterwards. It actually makes the Lyme symptoms worse for me. I agree with Christine, it’s just too processed!

  6. cheeseslave
    Kelly the Kitchen Kop
    01/10/2008 at 10:51 am Permalink

    Hi Diane!

    So how do we know if honey is “really raw”?

    Thanks,
    Kelly

  7. cheeseslave
    Anna
    01/10/2008 at 11:50 am Permalink

    Isn’t around 20% of the population is “allergic” or have adverse digestion of Xylitol? I know if I chew more than two pieces of gum in 48 hours my gut swells and gets rather uncomfortable. :(

  8. cheeseslave
    maria
    01/10/2008 at 12:42 pm Permalink

    so a friend of mine sent the below info to me awhile back, I’m still totally confused about this, I have asked several of my natural health docs and they don’t have any info re it being dangerous. I have been using stevia for about a year now, it took me about 6months to get used to it and it only works in some stuff but now that i’ve figured it out i really luv having it as a sweetner.

    “Stevia.
    Natural sweetener:
    Dietary supplement.
    Small amounts are probably safe. High doses fed to rats
    reduced sperm production and increased cell proliferation in
    their testicles, which could cause infertility or other problems.
    Stevia can only be sold in the United States as a dietary supplement,
    but several companies are reportedly developing a steviaderived
    sweetener and plan to seek approval from the FDA to use
    it in foods.”

  9. cheeseslave
    Carys
    01/10/2008 at 2:17 pm Permalink

    I’ve wondered about agave, since I know it bothers *me* just as much as any other sugar — but then I have fairly serious hyperinsulinemia, so I avoid almost all sugars (even too much fruit can be a problem for me, local raw honey is a huge problem for me, but I can handle a little organic dark maple syrup every so often so long as I have plenty of protein and fat with it).

    I do use the white stevia daily (the licorice-y taste of the green bothers me since I can taste it in everything I make). I’m sorry to hear that it’s not particularly good for me, but it’s definitely the lesser of two evils for my body since sugar does such a number on my blood sugar/insulin.

  10. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    01/10/2008 at 6:44 pm Permalink

    Christine, I will have to try the NOW brand of stevia. I have been using the white stuff to sweeten my coffee but I don’t really like it. It is a little strong.

    Funny — I have stevia growing outside in my garden.

    Does anyone know how to harvest it and use it? I suppose I could just dry it and then grind it into a powder, right?

  11. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    02/10/2008 at 12:20 am Permalink

    Kelly -

    I think you have to trust the person who is selling it. I get my raw honey from a local farmer. You want honey that is not heated.

  12. cheeseslave
    Jessica
    05/10/2008 at 5:30 pm Permalink

    Would you mind telling more about why Rami gives a thumbs-down to xylitol? I am currently not a WAPF member, but would like to know why xylitol might not be healthy.

    Thanks.

  13. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    05/10/2008 at 11:18 pm Permalink

    Oh man… I’ll have to go dig up the article.

    I think they will post it on the site eventually…

    You should become a member!

    It’s only $3.33 per month to join the WAPF. I swear, the quarterly magazine is totally worth it. I learn so much from each issue.

    If you do decide to become a member, please write in Carrie Hahn (chapter leader of Pittsburgh) as the person who referred you. She is trying to get to the conference this year.

  14. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    06/10/2008 at 10:12 am Permalink

    Not sure where I put the magazine, Jess (Is your house as messy as mine? Ever since Kate started walking it looks like a tornado hit us every single day) but in a nutshell xylitol is HIGHLY processed.

    There’s some info here on Rami Nagel’s site:

    http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Tooth_Decay/xylitol_tooth_decay.htm

  15. cheeseslave
    Diane
    15/12/2008 at 4:06 pm Permalink

    Hi…we met at the Farmer’s Market in S Monica/Venice at Linda’s egg stand….my son had the autism diagnosis and is improving thanks to diet interventions….I AM PREGNANT. Holy yikes…..Give me a call when you get a chance. Cheers. Di 805-907-8170

  16. cheeseslave
    Rita
    07/02/2009 at 7:10 pm Permalink

    I have used Xylitol for years and really love it. It’s perfect for my morning coffee. But after reading Anna’s post about Xylitol gum giving her a stomach ache, I wonder if some of my horrible stomach aches came from Xylitol. Anybody else?

  17. cheeseslave
    kellie
    07/04/2009 at 9:59 pm Permalink

    Xylitol and erythitol are both made in China from GMO genetically modified corn!! I’ve seen a few nourishing websites with gourmet recipes using these products (the best website even has an article on it to prove it’s safety for human consumption, yet nothing is mentioned about it being GMO). Run Forest, run… :-)
    Kellie.

  18. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    08/04/2009 at 6:15 am Permalink

    Whoa for real? I didn’t know that! Thank you Kellie for posting that!

  19. cheeseslave
    Tammy L
    13/04/2009 at 1:23 am Permalink

    I would be interested in more info (criticisms) of xylitol; I did read the article but a lot of the info presented doesn’t fit with my other research into xylitol (and I have done extensive reading about xylitol)! :) I also don’t like it when an author takes something unrelated and tries to use it to prove a point. (For example, xylitol is toxic to dogs — but so is chocolate! :) )

    I do think one thing to consider/remember is that xylitol is still a processed food and our bodies are not meant to consume large amounts of it, even if it is “safe”. The recommended amount for dental health is 6.5 to 10 g per day — and the benefit comes from the xylitol being in contact with the teeth (restoring ph balance in the mouth, “starving” the bacteria, and promoting saliva production!) not from going through the digestive tract. :)

    As for some people being allergic to xylitol — this is another thing that my research contradicts. Our bodies actually produce a small amount of xylitol!

    Anyway, not trying to write a book here; I just wanted to leave some thoughts from the other side since I’ve looked at this topic frequently. :) I’m always open to learning more! :)

    Tammy L’s last blog post..Making Your Home a Haven: Evening Routine

  20. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    13/04/2009 at 5:07 am Permalink

    Tammy, I didn’t go into any detail on xylitol when I wrote this article — mainly because the article that Rami Nagel wrote didn’t go into much detail either.

    Xylitol is a highly processed sweetener made in a factory. It is not made using natural, traditional means and processes. Also, people have not been eating xylitol for a long period of time.

    For these reasons, we can’t call it a traditional food. I prefer to stick to traditional sweeteners like honey, maple syrup, stevia and palm sugar. People have been eating these foods for centuries.

  21. cheeseslave
    Vin | NaturalBias.com
    20/05/2009 at 8:46 am Permalink

    Hi Ann,

    Thanks for pointing this article out to me. I am getting more and more questions about sweeteners and this is great information. I like to keep it simple and stick with the natural foods we evolved on, but a lot of people aren’t satisfied with this simplistic perspective.

    Vin | NaturalBias.com’s last blog post..How to Eliminate Sugar From Your Diet

  22. cheeseslave
    troy
    05/06/2009 at 10:56 am Permalink

    Ya…xylitol…I don’t get it. To each is own, but I’ll go w/o the extra gas, ty;) Some sweeteners are fabulous, like stevia, but they aren’t great in all applications. Dr. G’s Delight is a good sweetener that does it all including baking w/o a strong aftertaste, so it’s great for drinks and applications that don’t have masking flavors. It’s amazing to me to see so many negative comments about the “x,” but it’s still soooo popular. What’s up with that?

  23. cheeseslave
    Donald
    09/06/2009 at 2:09 pm Permalink

    I read an article today written by Sally Fallon Morell (founder of Weston A. Price Foundation mind you) and Rami Nagel concerning agave nectar. I believe it’s the same one you are paraphrasing above. I found the article to be totally anecdotal, the “science” referenced was questionable at best and the conclusions totally misleading.

    This stinks of negative (read: liable) marketing to garner attention for – Weston A. Price Foundation magazine, shameless!

  24. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    09/06/2009 at 5:46 pm Permalink

    Donald

    Um, why is it shameless to promote an article for the Weston A. Price Foundation? They are a non-profit. Why exactly is that a bad thing?

    And for what reasons do you call the science into question? Please elaborate.

  25. cheeseslave
    Jeanmarie Todd
    01/08/2009 at 9:46 pm Permalink

    This is a very interesting discussion. I have been trying to find information on xylitol, since I use a little of it without apparent problem, and I haven’t turned up anything wrong with it other than that A) it’s toxic to dogs B) it’s processed (but so are diamonds, haha C) it’s allegedly made in China with GMO corn. The brand I usually by, Emerald Forest, claims to be made in the USA, not sure whether GMO. Though, I did buy some from NOW recently and wonder whether that was a mistake. I can’t tolerate sugars because of yeast infections and it gives me headaches; I only buy organic white sugar for my kombucha. I’m not thrilled that xylitol is processed, but in the case of every other processed food I understand why it’s bad, exactly what the processing does to it. But I’ve not been able to find out any specific reason that the processing of birch sugar or other sugar to produce xylitol does something harmful. I’d be interested in knowing that, and in that case I would definitely give it up. But “Ramiel Nagle says it’s bad” just doesn’t cut it as a reason. The only WAPF article I could find on the subject was vaguely cautious about sugar alcohols as a class, but xylitol usually causes the least problems with gassiness, according to the wikipedia entry and my own experience. It seems wise not to consume it to excess, but for sweetening a drink, it seems about as benign as stevia.

    Here’s some info from the emeraldforestxylitol.com site:
    “Xylitol is naturally occuring in many fruits and vegetables. Once extracted and processed it yields a white, crystalline granule that can be used in any recipe that calls for sugar. It’s good for your teeth, stabilizes insulin and hormone levels, promotes good health and has none of the negative side effects of white sugar or artificial sweeteners. It contains only 2.4 calories per gram and is slowly absorbed as a complex carbohydrate.

    Xylitol is a natural insulin stabilizer, therefore it doesn’t cause a spike in blood sugar and actually helps reduce sugar and carbohydrate cravings. There is a growing consensus among anti-aging research that maintaining low insulin levels is one of the keys to a successful anti-aging program.
    Xylitol has no known toxic levels, though excessive use might cause a mild laxative effect which resolves as the body’s enzymatic activity adjusts. A large percentage passes through the body before the carbohydrates are absorbed, thereby making it safe for diabetics or anyone pursuing a healthy lifestyle.

    Xylitol Crystals
    Emerald Forest’s Xylitol comes from U.S.-grown hardwood trees.
    Xylitol was approved by the FDA in 1963 as a food additive and diabetics have been using it for years. Xylitol has a glycemic index of seven while sugar is 68. Emerald Forest xylitol is made from U.S.-grown hardwood trees which yields is 99.5% pure xylitol crystals. The process of extracting xylitol from its source eliminates the possibility of allergic reactions from plant materials.

    Xylitol is approved for use by:
    • The U.S. Food and Drug Administration
    • The World Health Organization’s Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives
    • American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry
    • The European Union’s Scientific Committee for Food
    • The California Dental Association
    • Calorie Control Council and many others

    Many Journals cite the positive benefits of Xylitol,
    including:
    • The Journal of the American Dental Association
    • The International Dental Journal
    • Journal of Dental Research and many others

    History of Xylitol
    During World War II, Finland was suffering from a sugar shortage and with no domestic supply of sugar, they searched for, and rediscovered, an alternative – xylitol. It was only when xylitol was stabilized that it became a viable sweetener in foods. Researchers also discovered xylitol’s insulin–independent nature (it metabolizes in the body without using insulin).
    * * *
    Thanks,
    Jeanmarie

  26. cheeseslave
    cheeseslave
    02/08/2009 at 5:49 am Permalink

    Jeanmarie –

    Sorry, when I wrote that post I didn’t have time to do more research on it.

    I would not use xylitol because it’s highly processed and refined. I don’t use agave for the same reason. I believe in eating foods that my great-grandmother would have eaten. Xylitol and agave are modern refined foods. I prefer to eat less refined, more natural sweeteners like honey, sucanat, palm sugar and maple syrup.

    Even if xylitol turns out to be safe, we don’t know if it is now. They’re not doing tests and it hasn’t been around very long. So how can we know if it is safe for us to eat? Meanwhile, honey and maple syrup and other natural sweeteners have been eaten by humans for millennia.

    The FDA? They also approved aspartame as safe. Any questions about whether that is safe, check out this site:

    http://myaspartameexperiment.com/

    If you get yeast infections and headaches from eating sweeteners, you may have a candida overgrowth or something. I’m not a doctor so please don’t take this as a diagnosis or anything. And if you don’t want my advice, please disregard it.

    However, you *may* want to look into doing some kind of program that restores good gut flora. I used to have similar problems when I was in my 20s. I couldn’t eat any sugar without having symptoms. I went on an anti-candida diet and corrected it. It took a couple of years but after that I could eat sugar with no problems.

    If it were me, I’d work on correcting my intestinal flora so I could go back to eating natural sugars. I’m going to do a post about this tomorrow so please check back.

  27. cheeseslave
    Kate
    24/12/2009 at 2:27 pm Permalink

    Yes me too. I’ll give the brand a try. Thanks :D . Keep it up.
    Kate´s last blog ..Wrenched back a hacked email account: and lesson learnt My ComLuv Profile

  28. cheeseslave
    HerbalJunky
    29/03/2010 at 5:55 pm Permalink

    I like stevia not only because it is an all natural sweetener but also because it is zero calorie. Some companies have inulin fibre with stevia which makes it all the more good as this helps maintain a healthy cholesterol level.

    HerbalJunky

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