Cherry Angiomas, Iodine, and Bromide Detox

by Ann Marie Michaels on October 19, 2012

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Cherry Angioma

I started noticing cherry angiomas on my skin in the past few years. They look like small, bright red moles.

If you search online, most sites say that they are something that just happens to people as they become middle-aged. I started seeing them a few years ago. I’m 44 now, so OK, I guess that makes sense.

But still, I wondered… could it be a sign of something wrong with me?

What Are Cherry Angiomas?

Cherry angiomas (also called cherry hemangiomas, Campbell De Morgan spots, or Senile angiomas) are small red or purple spots on the skin.

Cherry angiomas are cherry red papules on the skin containing an abnormal proliferation of blood vessels… Cherry angiomas are made up of clusters of capillaries at the surface of the skin, forming a small round dome (“papule”), which may be flat topped. They range in colour from bright red to purple. (Source)

The close-up photo of a cherry angioma above is kind of pretty, but in real life cherry angiomas are not very attractive.

Cherry Angiomas

Yuck, right?

OK, so first of all, that picture is not of ME. And also, I don’t have anywhere NEAR that many.

I just have a few here and there. I have several on my cleavage and torso, and a couple on my arms and legs.

Cherry Angiomas, Iodine, and Bromide Detox

I was curious about what caused cherry angiomas. You see something weird on your skin and it makes you nervous. Like, what are these things?

I found found some websites the other day that explained that cherry angiomas are a sign of bromide poisoning. In fact, it can be a sign that bromide is detoxing from the body.

Check this out:

Cherry angiomas are caused by bromine poisoning. Research conducted by Drs. A. D. Cohena, E. Cagnanob, and D. A. Vardya, shows the correlation between bromine poisoning and cherry angiomas.

Mysterious red moles appeared on researchers’ bodies after working for extended periods of time with brominated compounds.

Bromine poisoning, stored in the fat tissues, is a halogen. It is a known disruptor which prevents the absorption of iodine in the body.

The body attempts to move the toxin away from vital body organs storing it in fat tissues and in the skin where it resides as “red dots.” (Source)

Now this makes a lot of sense to me. Because I started taking iodine back in 2007. And iodine detoxes bromide.

I took about 50 mg of Iodoral per day for about a year. It was after that that the cherry angiomas started showing up.

(Click here to read my old posts about iodine deficiency and our consultation with an iodine doc.)

What Is Bromide and How Does It End Up In Our Bodies?

Bromide is a chemical element in the halogen group (along with fluoride, chlorine and iodine). Bromide is found in many processed foods including bread made with enriched flour. It is used to make food last longer and increase shelf life. Bromine is toxic to the human body and is carcinogenic.

Bromide is an insidious, additive used in many common products, and as a pesticide. Because of the sheer amount of bromide-supplemented products, exposure to this man-made additive has caused a depletion of iodine in human populations. Studies in lab animals provide alarming evidence that even small amounts of bromide exposure can be toxic. (Source)

Bromide is a halide (in the halogen group, same as fluoride), and as a result, it competes for the same receptors that are used in the thyroid gland to capture iodine (as well as the breasts and ovaries, where iodine is stored). When iodine is displaced, it inhibits thyroid hormone production and can result in hypothyroidism.

Pesticides

Sources of Bromide:

  • Pesticides (methyl bromide)
  • Plastics
  • Bromated flour also called “Enriched Flour”
  • Brominated vegetables
  • Brominated vegetable oil in citrus sodas and sports drinks
  • Asthma inhalers
  • New furniture, carpeting, bedding, cars
  • Flame retardants especially in children’s clothing and mattresses
  • Cosmetics
  • Hair permanents and coloring
  • Hot tub and swimming pool treatments

A bromide dominance condition may develop when bromide, acquired through environmental, occupational, iatrogenic or dietary exposure, causes bromide levels in the body to rise high enough to inhibit iodine enzyme metabolism. (Source)

We can also develop bromide dominance when we have an iodine deficiency. According to some doctors, most people today are iodine deficient. We are eating less of the foods that contain iodine (seafood and seaweed, for example). Also, many people are eating a lot of foods that inhibit iodine absorption, such as soy milk and other soy foods and raw leafy greens (think green smoothies) and other goitrogenic foods.

Iodine and Bromide Detox

Chemicals like bromide and fluoride are stored in fat tissue, as well as the thyroid gland, breasts and ovaries (where they displace the iodine that should be stored there).

Iodine detoxes bromide (and fluoride) out of the body.

As explained above, when the chemicals are detoxed from the body, they show up in the skin. The skin is one of our major detoxification organs.

To repeat:

The body attempts to move the toxin away from vital body organs storing it in fat tissues and in the skin where it resides as “red dots.” (Source)

As I always say, I’m not a doctor. But this is all very interesting, don’t you think?

I’m thinking these red dots may very well be a good thing. I think they may have appeared as I started to detox. But then I stopped taking the iodine. I think I should have continued.

I did notice that some of the red spots (cherry angiomas) faded on my legs over the past several months since I raised my metabolism by eating more and helping my thyroid. A connection?

I also wonder if the magnesium (chloride) oil and baths I was taking six months ago were helping me to detox.

Just this morning I was reading one of David Brownstein’s wonderful books called [easyazon-link asin=”B000R8ZTGK” locale=”us”]Salt – Your Way To Health[/easyazon-link] and discovered that the chloride in salt helps the kidneys to clear or detoxify the body of bromide, which is a potent poison that is stupidly used in both medicines and foods, especially the white bread you buy from a store. It is just one more reason to sustain the conclusion that magnesium chloride is more effective than other forms of magnesium.

Needless to say, I’m back on the Iodoral and I’m using the magnesium oil again. I’m betting that if I keep it up, these red dots will fade.

Learn More About Cherry Angiomas, Iodine & Bromide Detox

Cherry Angiomas: An Early Warning Sign
Bromide Dominance Theory
How Competitive Inhibition Causes Iodine Deficiency

The Top Trio in Self-Health Care at Home: Magnesium, Iodine and Sodium Bicarbonate
The Iodine Group Website
[easyazon-link asin=”B000R8ZTGK” locale=”us”]Salt – Your Way To Health[/easyazon-link] by Dr. David Brownstein

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Linda October 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

OMG! This is so timely. Thank you for posting this. I swear, it seems like everything I’m going through in relation to diet and health always seems to pop up on your blog.
I noticed a red pimple like spot on my arm a few weeks ago that wouldn’t go away. Now I realize it’s most likely a cherry angioma. I’ve also been supplementing with tons of sea salt for my adrenals and magnesium. So based on this info, it would appear that I’m bromide detoxing. Wow! This makes me not want to detox for fear that more will crop up. Plus, my adrenals don’t need the stress.
Thank you for sharing!

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Alison October 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM

What about being born with one? My daughter has a large hemangioma on her chest…

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Laurel October 19, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I was born with several of these and they haven’t changed at all. Even when I was taking Iodoral and detoxing lots of bromide I never got more of them, and they never got bigger.

There is probably more than one explanation for these angiomas. My dad had a bunch of them so maybe I just inherited mine.

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Antony October 19, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I also have these and got my first one in my early twenties. Never really took notice of it. In my mid 30’s started getting more (once again not as many as the pic) but still enough to get me worried. They seem to come in spurts, more so when terribly stressed (was self employed during that period, but battling to make ends meet). Recently started a new job and as a result am less anxious about income and finding that no new ones have appeared. I think Vivian makes a very important point about stress and our thinking patterns and how it relates to disease.

P.S. A good way to get rid of them is to use a cheap hobbyist soldering iron. Heat it up real good and lightly just touch the skin, they disappear never to return. They basically just scab over and within a few days you would never even have known they were there. Anyway my two cents worth. Greetings from South Africa.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:20 PM

@Antony

Yikes! That sounds painful!

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JP October 19, 2012 at 1:28 PM

An important thing to know about iodine supplementation is that you do not take iodine by itself. It is part of a protocol (as per Dr. David Brownstein). The other supplements are very important.

There are people with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis who take iodine successfully and who have reduced their symptoms, but taking iodine alone may not be a good idea.

It is also important to know that for several reasons, going by TSH levels alone are not always the best way to guage thyroid function.

Another place for information on this topic is the iodine users discussion group at Yahoo.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yes that is true. Click here to see the protocol on Breastcancerchoices.org:

http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

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Anna October 20, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Hey cheeseslave!

First of all, I wanted to say that I love your website! I’m german, a 22 year old student and I live in Berlin.
I really can’t rememeber how I found your website in the first place (must have been a year ago or so), but I’m so glad I did. I’m kind of stalking your website everyday…hope you don’t mind having a german stalker :-)

When it comes to iodine, I use a sea salt that has algae added. It’s from Rapunzel. Have you ever heard of it? It’s really good, I can only recommend it.

Hope you’re having a nice day!
best wishes from Berlin!

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Christa April 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Hallo Anna

How are you? Can you please tell me the name brand of this algae sea salt it sounds exactly what i need

danke

Christa :)

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Andrea October 20, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Any thoughts on using kelp for iodine?

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JP October 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM

The issue with kelp is the very real possibility of it being contaminated with heavy metals. Since the reactor blow-up in Japan, the iodine in kelp may also be contaminated.

There are, apparently, contaminant-free sources for kelp but I’d be very careful. Even then you’d probably have to eat a lot of kelp to get enough iodine.

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cheeseslave October 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Yes you have to take a lot of kelp and it’s hard to know how much you are getting.

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Leah Johnson October 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Very interesting. I have teensy tiny red dots the size of the head of a pin all over the inside of my upper arms and my cleavage. I have a few on my thighs as well. They are just under the skin, and if I scratch at them, it seems to open them up a bit, but I wouldn’t consider them to be “raised bumps.” I can’t decide if they are cherry angiomas or petechia. I have had them for a couple of years (I am 26 years old). I can’t figure out in my case what the cause could be…everything I have read recommends seeing a doctor, but I hate conventional medicine and have not ventured out to see a naturopath yet. They haven’t seemed to have gotten any worse since I changed my diet/lifestyle about 1.5 years ago, but they haven’t gone away, either. I keep hoping they’ll go away eventually or that I will read something that clicks so I can figure out what the cause of them is…

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Jennifer Greenfield D.C October 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Cherry Angiomas are also a sign of Estrogen Dominance, a common imbalance I see in both my female and male patients.

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Jennifer Henry October 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Hi Ann Marie,

Thank you for this post. I have read other things about these bumps – that they are related to estrogen dominance, or a way for copper to be stored outside the body. This is the first time I have heard about bromide, but generally the whole idea of the body finding a “safer” place for toxic compounds makes sense.

I want to point out that I believe for some people these cherry angiomas do not look red. Mine, which are the same in size and character, are brown, because I am African-American. There is no mention of this in any of the literature (this is very common – the normal medical model is not a person of color), but I thought I’d point it out in case any of your readers are not pale-skinned. I notice that as I clean my liver my spots fade a bit, and they proliferate when I feel my liver is “clogged”.

Thanks for your inquisitive mind!

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cheeseslave October 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

@Jennifer Henry

Excellent point — thanks so much for your comment!

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Mel March 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

my naturopath said these are genetic. hit it with an ILP laser and they will be gone

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Vanessa April 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I’d love to hear if you have an update at all? I’ve just been noticing these lately and I was worried, so I googled and found this. I’ve been taking Iodine quite regularily lately in the hopes of helping my Thyroid, so perhaps they are related? Would love to hear from you if you have an update on if it helped at all? Thanks!

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Christa April 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Hi all!

I have many of these coming up on around my chest and on breasts and have been on and off detoxing. I have an autoimmune disorder ITP with about 70k platelets and also have been told im hyperthyroid now. i am 28 years old i am i guessing its all linked. i read also chinese garlic has loads of bromide and i was consuming lots of garlic at one point! eek

take care x christa

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Kari April 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I have these too. They started when I was extremely stressed out and restricting my diet heavily because my nursing baby was reacting to everything that I was eating. They are on my arms and chest. Some are tiny, like pinpricks, and some are slightly bigger, like a red freckle or very small mole.

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Krissy May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

What would be awesome is if we didn’t have to find the cause for them ourselves!!! If there was actually a natural doctor who knew the reasons for them and had been successful in healing his patients cherry angiomas! I know they aren’t from getting older… I’m only 30…one very ignorant np told me they were. The first few appeared for me in the beginning of my extreme postpartum insomnia (followed by 12+ thyroid disease symptoms). I hadn’t slept in about 8 days. I remember freaking out noticing them. The only place I had ever seen them was on my dad, who was in his late 60’s, very unhealthy, and basically covered in them- chest, arms, legs…probably 50 or more on his body. I didn’t see many more for the next few years. Until a few months ago, when my menopausal symptoms got severely worse. It seemed to coincide with my thinning skin, wrinkling, developing of age spots, etc. I’m assuming they are thyroid disease or hormonal related for me. But if hormonal, which hormonal deficiency is it?

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Jessica Murphy May 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Hi I was impressed by this article and the responses but I was curious about more information on the magnesium oil and bath you were using and how the application was done. If you could email me and let me know those details I would be appreciative.

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Ann Marie Michaels May 30, 2013 at 8:36 PM
Mark May 27, 2013 at 7:08 PM

At least in Canada iodine supplementation in salt has the average Canadian well supplied with dietary iodine. Deficiency definitely happens but not common. People who are iodine deficient usually have bigger problems that caused it such as inability to eat or absorb iodine and the primary problem needs to be addressed.

A quick caution on detox. Make sure you know what you are doing. Many people use the term detox for many things from bowel irritants causing diarrhea to chelation therapy to the above suggestions. Each has risks. Just remember detoxing from fat stored toxins makes you sicker (increases blood concentration as toxin released from fat) which can be dangerous. This is why birds die in winter as they lose fat and stored pesticides are released to toxic levels. Toxic levels otherwise are rarely reached due to slow absorption of toxins and safer storage in fat.

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Jen September 20, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Dr. David Brownstein has talked about how modern iodized salt is not that effective at providing adequate iodine. I think partly because of how it’s absorbed and also the way iodine is processed – I can’t recall the exact reason. You could look more into this and I believe I heard it in a video lecture from Dr. Brownstein I found online.

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Jen September 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Here is a link to the info and talk from Dr. Brownstein where he talks about the iodine in salt not being bioavailable (was shown in a study). Though iodized salt is usually sufficient to prevent goiters, it’s not sufficient to provide adequate iodine for most people (the majority of people (North American) are iodine deficient even with having years of iodized salt).

Very good to watch all these videos of the presentation by Dr. Brownstein about iodine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzng7ddZEGs&list=PLJ0ZAcCFpXTGfZvCgwrWUKbmY9nZckFwJ

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Marcin June 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I think someone should be more interested in the viral origin of these red spots. I have not had until I started hanging out with a girl. After than I infect my current wife.

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Ann June 13, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Thanks SO much for this article! I have been searching off and on for YEARS trying to figure our their origin and what to do. Have yours faded? If so, can you tell me what exactly you did to fade them? THANK YOU! <3

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Kelly August 6, 2013 at 6:50 AM

This is interesting info! I recently had an MRI and was injected with iodine in order to assist the radiologist in reading the results (at least I think that was what it was for). Not long after, I had a proliferation of these! I had had one or two before but am now seeing them everywhere I look. I have no doubt that it was the iodine that expressed them, although I believe it was likely excessive bromine that caused them (in lieu of any other good explanation). I am looking into laser therapy to have some of the more prevalent ones removed! Thanks for your research and explanation!

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Mel August 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM

But what if you are allergic to iodine? I’m allergic to that & shellfish, the 1 time I was swabbed on accident at the dr, my skin swelled/welted up horribly, scaled & shed later…I only have 1 of these little red guys on my chest & always assumed it was a birth mark, it’s been there my whole life.

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Rachel February 6, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Are you allergic to milk too? It’s loaded with iodine..

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Jo August 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Interesting read…Methyl Bromide is sprayed in Australia on all imported foods (even organic).

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merle August 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Any thoughts on taking kelp powder as an iodine source?

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merle August 27, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Have you ever seen the body detoxing through the skin via small bumps all over the forehead and sides of the face? (they’re not red, nor are they filled with anything)

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shay January 2, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Thanks for sharing. For everyone reading it is important to remember everyone’s body is unique. You have to find your own individual nutrition blue print. Not everyone has thyroid issues caused by the same factors. This is why this is such a hard topic. What works for one person doesn’t always work for another. I personally was scared to try strait up iodine supps so I moved to iodized salt, began using sea greens like spirulina and chlorella daily in my smoothies and started managing my stress better to help my thyroid. I was already gluten free but it didn’t really help me with the thyroid problems. My hair was falling out and I had lost my right eyebrow. That all came back after 6 months on daily green smoothies and a high alkaline diet.

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Dr. Garrett Smith January 3, 2014 at 4:13 AM

I would suggest keeping your iodine intake to around 200mcg a day. Iodoral type dosing will cause problems long-term. Do not believe the iodine worshippers, I’ve been there, done that. We need some iodine, but taking massive doses is going for a drug-like effect (and drug effects always come with side effects). Places with high iodine intakes are associated with very high rates of Hashimoto’s.

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JP January 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Dr. Smith

Can you give citations for the high iodine/high Hashi’s connection? I have not been able to come up with much.

Also, it’s important to note that the ‘iodine worshippers’, as you refer to them, do not usually recommend using iodine in isolation.

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Ann Marie Michaels December 5, 2015 at 7:34 AM

Correct – they recommend taking the companion supplements

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Kel April 16, 2014 at 8:24 AM

All the references I’ve found, including Dr. Brownstein’s work, cite iodine supplementation as directly correlated with optimum health. In Japan, as an example, their iodine level consumption exceeds Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation, and yet they remain among some of the healthiest cultures in the world. Can you help me understand, Dr. Smith? The conflicting information leaves me scratching my head????

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Raillery January 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

See this link for a great information source regarding iodine. It explains symptoms of too much iodine, not enough iodine, food sources of iodine, cooking tips for increasing iodine, and daily recommendation amounts.

Anyone using a supplement as a stand alone nutrient should consult their primary care physician first in case if you have a complex situation. High doses of iodine (especially without selenium), can cause damage to one’s health and cause similar symptoms as an underactive thyroid.

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Raillery January 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM
Tammy Roberts April 5, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Please- Cheese slave would like to have a 2014 update on your progress with getting rid of those cherry angiomas with the protocol you started.

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Kel April 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM

@ Dr. Garrett Smith, all the references I’ve found, including Dr. Brownstein’s work, cite iodine supplementation as directly correlated with optimum health. In Japan, as an example, their iodine level consumption exceeds Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation, and yet they are among some of the healthiest culture in the world.

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Sharon October 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Have you tried Dry Skin Brushing? It’s a DIY method to speed up the detox through your skin. It’s inexpensive and effective in my experience. http://www.fitinfun.com/the-five-best-benefits-from-dry-skin-brushing/

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Joyce November 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

I really enjoyed reading about the red dots. I have them all over my body but the ones I am more concerned about are the ones on my face. I think I will have them removed just for the cosmetic reasons. The others are no bother. I remember my grandmother used to have them like me so I guess I just got lucky. Thanks for the info.

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Leonie collinson December 29, 2014 at 7:19 AM

Hello, I was wondering if the keeping up with iodine caused these dots to fade? because Im having the same problem myself and hoping iodine will make them disappear x

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NT January 25, 2015 at 7:16 AM

I came here for a related issue, and i’d like to leave you with some advice and a word. to get rid of the cherry angiomas apply iodine *tincture* to them, they dry instantly, within 3 minutes, and they eventually fall off. i’ve continued applying iodine after they dried, but this *might* not have been necessary. as for the word: IMO it takes a particular mind and mindset to notice a negative reaction as a result of the assumption of a substance, to turn it into a positive effect and resume taking the substance. how about a different and more plausible explanation? if indeed the iodine assumption and the appearance of the cherry angiomas are in fact linked, perhaps the cause is an excessive intake of iodine. i would suggest you drop the supplement and simply modify your diet to obtain iodine, in a more appropriate amount, from your food. after ending up in hospital as the result of taking incompatible supplements, i now recommend caution with all of them and remind everyone that a healthy, balanced diet provides mere fractions of the substances of which we regularly take massive doses, and the practice is not without risk. all the best.

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Amber February 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM

Just looking for an update! Thanks!

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Kris March 13, 2015 at 10:51 PM

Looking for an update as well. Also interested in know if anyone else has had any experience with the above stated treatment “apply iodine *tincture* to them, they dry instantly, within 3 minutes, and they eventually fall off.” I would LOVE to know more about how to remove these things!

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bella March 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM

I tried to tincture a few times. It does dry quick but they haven’t fell off yet.

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Hallie April 7, 2015 at 8:11 PM

I have had these little red smooth topped dots like they are under my skin and looks like skinny red cracks like a spider spreading from it.and I’ve had these since I can remember. I am now 28 years of age and am now noticing more which I had 2 on my hand and at least 3 to 4 on each arm.now I have way more. I’ve never had any concerns about them.but I’m noticing more and more.i never had went to doctor about them.and they are very noticeable (not pretty to look at).and I mind you I’ve had them since at least a teenager and they’ve always been flat.im not even sure mine relates to this topic. And should I deep medical??

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Hallie April 7, 2015 at 8:12 PM

I mean should I seek medical?

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Kimberly April 24, 2015 at 12:19 PM

Great! Also baking soda in your bath is very good for detox as well :) Happy baths! 😉

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Brenda Forgacs April 24, 2015 at 2:47 PM

Didn’t you say that the cherry angiomas starting showing up AFTER you started taking Iodoral? Wouldnt that lead you to believe that the Iodine caused the angiomas?

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Venus December 2, 2015 at 7:12 PM

Thanks Brenda!
I thought I read it wrong, but you’re right. Even thorough this is an old post and no one will probably see it, I saw the same thing and realized that the author never responded which makes me wonder if this is a valid site for any TRUE/REAL information.

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Venus December 2, 2015 at 7:13 PM

Meant though

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Julie February 8, 2016 at 8:08 PM

I am having issues with the red dots too, but I’m not particularly surprised about it. When my mother hit middle age, she started getting them, too. They only increased as she got older. My grandmother was covered with them, as well. While bromide may be one factor, we clearly have to consider age and genetics. I had a couple when I was younger, but then I hit my mid-thirties and they just started popping up everywhere (particularly my cleavage). I have Hashimotos, like several people on this thread seem to have, but I was diagnosed at the age of 13 and the cherry spots didn’t really start to come out until I hit my mid-30s, which still leads me to believe that age must be a factor.

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Maya March 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM

Hi,
Thank you for your article, I am having the same problem with the cherry anigomas , could you pls update us on the results of your treatment and what worked or didn’t work for you?

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