Cherry Angiomas, Iodine, and Bromide Detox

by Ann Marie Michaels on October 19, 2012

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Cherry Angioma

I started noticing cherry angiomas on my skin in the past few years. They look like small, bright red moles.

If you search online, most sites say that they are something that just happens to people as they become middle-aged. I started seeing them a few years ago. I’m 44 now, so OK, I guess that makes sense.

But still, I wondered… could it be a sign of something wrong with me?

What Are Cherry Angiomas?

Cherry angiomas (also called cherry hemangiomas, Campbell De Morgan spots, or Senile angiomas) are small red or purple spots on the skin.

Cherry angiomas are cherry red papules on the skin containing an abnormal proliferation of blood vessels… Cherry angiomas are made up of clusters of capillaries at the surface of the skin, forming a small round dome (“papule”), which may be flat topped. They range in colour from bright red to purple. (Source)

The close-up photo of a cherry angioma above is kind of pretty, but in real life cherry angiomas are not very attractive.

Cherry Angiomas

Yuck, right?

OK, so first of all, that picture is not of ME. And also, I don’t have anywhere NEAR that many.

I just have a few here and there. I have several on my cleavage and torso, and a couple on my arms and legs.

Cherry Angiomas, Iodine, and Bromide Detox

I was curious about what caused cherry angiomas. You see something weird on your skin and it makes you nervous. Like, what are these things?

I found found some websites the other day that explained that cherry angiomas are a sign of bromide poisoning. In fact, it can be a sign that bromide is detoxing from the body.

Check this out:

Cherry angiomas are caused by bromine poisoning. Research conducted by Drs. A. D. Cohena, E. Cagnanob, and D. A. Vardya, shows the correlation between bromine poisoning and cherry angiomas.

Mysterious red moles appeared on researchers’ bodies after working for extended periods of time with brominated compounds.

Bromine poisoning, stored in the fat tissues, is a halogen. It is a known disruptor which prevents the absorption of iodine in the body.

The body attempts to move the toxin away from vital body organs storing it in fat tissues and in the skin where it resides as “red dots.” (Source)

Now this makes a lot of sense to me. Because I started taking iodine back in 2007. And iodine detoxes bromide.

I took about 50 mg of Iodoral per day for about a year. It was after that that the cherry angiomas started showing up.

(Click here to read my old posts about iodine deficiency and our consultation with an iodine doc.)

What Is Bromide and How Does It End Up In Our Bodies?

Bromide is a chemical element in the halogen group (along with fluoride, chlorine and iodine). Bromide is found in many processed foods including bread made with enriched flour. It is used to make food last longer and increase shelf life. Bromine is toxic to the human body and is carcinogenic.

Bromide is an insidious, additive used in many common products, and as a pesticide. Because of the sheer amount of bromide-supplemented products, exposure to this man-made additive has caused a depletion of iodine in human populations. Studies in lab animals provide alarming evidence that even small amounts of bromide exposure can be toxic. (Source)

Bromide is a halide (in the halogen group, same as fluoride), and as a result, it competes for the same receptors that are used in the thyroid gland to capture iodine (as well as the breasts and ovaries, where iodine is stored). When iodine is displaced, it inhibits thyroid hormone production and can result in hypothyroidism.

Pesticides

Sources of Bromide:

  • Pesticides (methyl bromide)
  • Plastics
  • Bromated flour also called “Enriched Flour”
  • Brominated vegetables
  • Brominated vegetable oil in citrus sodas and sports drinks
  • Asthma inhalers
  • New furniture, carpeting, bedding, cars
  • Flame retardants especially in children’s clothing and mattresses
  • Cosmetics
  • Hair permanents and coloring
  • Hot tub and swimming pool treatments

A bromide dominance condition may develop when bromide, acquired through environmental, occupational, iatrogenic or dietary exposure, causes bromide levels in the body to rise high enough to inhibit iodine enzyme metabolism. (Source)

We can also develop bromide dominance when we have an iodine deficiency. According to some doctors, most people today are iodine deficient. We are eating less of the foods that contain iodine (seafood and seaweed, for example). Also, many people are eating a lot of foods that inhibit iodine absorption, such as soy milk and other soy foods and raw leafy greens (think green smoothies) and other goitrogenic foods.

Iodine and Bromide Detox

Chemicals like bromide and fluoride are stored in fat tissue, as well as the thyroid gland, breasts and ovaries (where they displace the iodine that should be stored there).

Iodine detoxes bromide (and fluoride) out of the body.

As explained above, when the chemicals are detoxed from the body, they show up in the skin. The skin is one of our major detoxification organs.

To repeat:

The body attempts to move the toxin away from vital body organs storing it in fat tissues and in the skin where it resides as “red dots.” (Source)

As I always say, I’m not a doctor. But this is all very interesting, don’t you think?

I’m thinking these red dots may very well be a good thing. I think they may have appeared as I started to detox. But then I stopped taking the iodine. I think I should have continued.

I did notice that some of the red spots (cherry angiomas) faded on my legs over the past several months since I raised my metabolism by eating more and helping my thyroid. A connection?

I also wonder if the magnesium (chloride) oil and baths I was taking six months ago were helping me to detox.

Just this morning I was reading one of David Brownstein’s wonderful books called Salt – Your Way To Health and discovered that the chloride in salt helps the kidneys to clear or detoxify the body of bromide, which is a potent poison that is stupidly used in both medicines and foods, especially the white bread you buy from a store. It is just one more reason to sustain the conclusion that magnesium chloride is more effective than other forms of magnesium.

Needless to say, I’m back on the Iodoral and I’m using the magnesium oil again. I’m betting that if I keep it up, these red dots will fade.

Learn More About Cherry Angiomas, Iodine & Bromide Detox

Cherry Angiomas: An Early Warning Sign
Bromide Dominance Theory
How Competitive Inhibition Causes Iodine Deficiency

The Top Trio in Self-Health Care at Home: Magnesium, Iodine and Sodium Bicarbonate
The Iodine Group Website
Salt – Your Way To Health by Dr. David Brownstein

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Holly October 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM

interesting. thanks :)

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Jennifer October 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM

This is very interesting. My husband has had these spots since I met him over 30 years ago. We’ll have to check into it.

I would just like to make a comment on iodine supplementation. I was just diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis this summer and have been trying to research as much as possible about it. Many, many places have said that it can be harmful for those who are hypothyroid to take additional iodine. In the case of Hashimotos, it can make things quite a bit worse. Please check things out thoroughly for yourselves before just jumping in with supplementing any isolated nutrient. There are some people who do benefit from it, but make sure which way is the case for you.

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Laurel October 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I have Hashi’s too and when I started taking iodine my goiter got much larger and began choking me. Don’t believe everything you read.

Best thing I did for my Hashi’s was to give up gluten.

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Julie D. October 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM

I supplemented with iodine and caused myself to be hypothyroid. My levels normalized when I stopped taking it.

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Amanda October 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I was scared out of taking iodine years ago and kept experiencing hair loss and weight gain no matter what I did.
I finally started taking Lugol’s iodine and four days later my hair stopped falling out.
I regret not starting on iodine sooner.
So while I see what you’re saying, I don’t think it’s a great idea to scare everyone away from iodine supplementation either. I am so thankful for my iodine.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I agree, it really depends on the individual.

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Julie D. October 19, 2012 at 5:37 PM

I think it is something that needs to be taken under a practitioner’s supervision.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Perhaps… But taking iodine as a supplement is something that people have done for a long time, including people in Dr. Weston Price’s book, Nutrition & Physical Degeneration.

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Amy Love @ Real Food Whole Health October 19, 2012 at 9:05 PM

They may have been eating iodine rich foods, but that is quite different from supplementing with Iodoral, with is a mix of iodine and iodide. I took Iodoral early in my healing journey and had a massive bromide detox, to the point of bromism. I went stupid and was drooling, could not speak…practically a vegetative state. This was under a doctor’s supervision and with previous urine tests to support the fact that I was iodine deficient. Apparently, he’d ramped up the dosage too quickly, and it was too high of a dosage (50 mg). It caused big problems and if Matt hadn’t caught it and started me on a salt flush immediately, who knows what might have happened. Now, iodine is necessary and for some, supplementation (through foods or supplements) may be helpful, but just willy nilly application through self-diagnosing after identifying with a few symptoms online is advised against for all of us. I am a firm believer in taking charge of your health and I do advise having a team of supportive practitioners of your choosing, knowing the possible side effects of ANYTHING and how to mitigate them quickly. In my practice, I see cherry hemangiomas often, generally in my GAPS clients. When I was training with Dr. Campbell-McBride, she addressed these and the connection to the liver. If someone is dealing with difficulty detoxing, it’s important they not overload their body with supplements (helpful or otherwise) unless it’s specifically tailored to their needs at the time and adjusted when no longer necessary (or given in combination with synergistic vitamins/minerals). Again, the information is helpful and there seems to be a connection, but I think extreme caution should be exercised when undertaking any iodine supplementation.

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Jagrati Buggia October 20, 2012 at 7:46 AM

I just want to be a positive voice here for iodoral supplementation when you have Hashimoto’s. After my initial diagnosis I was put on Low Dose Naltrexone (most docs won’t know about it, so you can educate yourself by google) and gluten free diet. My symptoms eased a lot. My doc said no to iodine. 2 years later I read the work of dr David Brownstein and started iodoral. I knew within minutes of taking that first 25mg dose that my body needed it. My energy improved incredibly and my antibody numbers reduced by hundreds…. and like Ann Marie I developed cherry “whatsits”. Individual results will vary. I am incredibly grateful for iodine supplementation. Thanks for a fab article Ann Marie!

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Beth October 20, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I agree with you! There is so much information on the Internet and I think people should work more with practitioners (that they like and believe will help them). I also think people need to take a look at both symptoms and tests.

I had a terrible time with both high and low doses of iodine and will not take it for awhile at all.

People are different and iodine supplementation can help or hurt someone.

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Lisa truitt August 10, 2014 at 2:25 PM

I totally disagree. I lost quite a bit of money on alternative practitioners before I figured out that I can do for myself. All that is needed is research a little common sense and caution. It is important to go low and slow on supplements and monitor your body and give it time to adjust to avoid detox reactions and any other negative reaction. Knowledge is power, and the vast majority of the time unless a problem is immediately life threatening you can learn to doctor yourself. I have cured more problems, done a better job for myself for less cost than any of the paid practitioners I have ever gone to. I am wondering if in most cases with the right amount of supporting nutrients hashis people could take higher dose iodine just fine. Actually I know many have. I have had thyroid problems and don’t know if I had hashis. From what I understand a very high percent of hypo t people have it. I don’t go to doctors except in unavoidable emergency situations so I never was tested for it. But when I first did high dose iodine I got thyroiditis symptoms swelling etc until I added the companion nutrients particularly selenium. I’m sure this wouldn’t have gone away and would have gotten worse had I not taken the selenium.

Beth July 19, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Laurel and Julie –
What specific iodine supplement did you take? I’ve been thinking of supplementing and am thinking that there are differences with various brands. Thanks!

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Amy Hegwood October 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM

My 11 month old has one of these below his left eye, any advice on what to do for him?

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Mary October 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM

My 7 yr old daughter does too, same place. She has had it for several years now. Unfortunately I don’t know how to get it to fade.

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Bridgette November 4, 2013 at 8:12 PM

My son used to have a big one behind his ear and it went away on its own. It showed up when he was about 6mo old and was gone by the time he was 3.

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Barbara January 1, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Amy, one of my grandchildren had one of those from birth; it took about 18 months to completely fade away. You just tell your sweet baby that he/she is perfect and lacking no good thing…:)

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SusanH May 27, 2014 at 7:31 AM

Did you actually FEEL hypothyroid, symptomatic? Or did your TSH just go up. It is normal for your TSH to go up with initiation of iodine therapy, it is a sign of a happy busy thyroid, not a sign of hypothyroidism. The TSH will normalize after a while. Remember, we don’t treat lab tests, we treat people.

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Vivian October 19, 2012 at 9:50 AM

A great youtube lecture capture on psychoneuroimmunology.

http://youtu.be/3R9mD-iJZIg

I truly believe that all these “diseases” eg. hypo/hyperthyroid, cancer, lupus, etc. are directly correlated with emotions and stress. Our thoughts create disease and there is extensive scientific research to back it up. The works of Candace Pert, for example in “Molecules of Emotion” etc.

I am fascinated by this topic and how neuropeptides and neurotransmitters are created by our thoughts. Much like Emoto, and his studies on how our thoughts influence the shape of water molecules, our physiology is directly linked to our thoughts.

Think about multiple personality disorders and how one personality will have all the physiology of type 1 diabetes and then when that same body switches to a different personality, the diabetes disappears completely to be replaced by some other disease like hypothyroid or lupus. The mind is very very powerful.

Neuropeptides/neurotransmitters are almost identical in chemistry to seawater. This means that our bodies produce neurotransmitters effortlessly. SSRI’s can also boost the production of specific neurotransmitters however, studies do show that we can create, almost effortlessly, just by thought, the correct neurotransmitters to create a feeling of well being. In others words, we create our own serotonin, endorphins, etc. just by thinking.

Diet hacking, hypochondria/orthorexia is very stressful on our bodies. All of this obsession over what we are eating and how it affects us, our weight, and self image is harmful. These thoughts are wreaking havoc on our homeostasis. We become out of balance. The worry over weight gain, belly fat, body shape, what we eat etc.

The theory behind RRARF and why it works is that we have released the negativity and stress associated with obsessing over what we eat and how it affects our bodies.

Stop obsessing. Believe that the food that you are eating is nourishing your body. Once the belief sets in, you are well on your way to true health. Intuition is your friend. It will guide you to the right path. The point of life is to be happy and to experience joy, and that, my friends, will not come from the outside.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:13 PM

@Vivian

I’m a big believer in RRARF! However… I also know that pesticides and chemicals in our environment DO make us sick.

I am not orthorexic, we eat out often, and we don’t worry about pesticides etc. when we do. But I do try to buy organic food for the majority of our meals, and I do try to avoid beauty products that are toxic.

I think it’s a balance. You shouldn’t stress about it or make yourself crazy with it. But just as I wouldn’t buy a house next to a nuclear reactor, or bathe in sewage, I also also do my best to avoid putting toxic chemicals into and on my body on a daily basis.

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Debbie March 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I agree with you. It seems doing our best most of the time, and not obsessing about food ALL of the time, is the easiest way to live a healthy life. If we spend all of our time obsessing over something we eat when we go out occasionally, it causes stress that all of that good food we eat at home has to work overtime to overcome. Moderation works best for me.

And btw, Lugol’s changed my life in wonderful ways. I was always very thin until I had a hysterectomy. Menopause symptoms and obvious hormonal imbalances arrived immediately, and I gained weight along with a host of other not-fun symptoms.

I read about iodine supplementation for a LIST of symptoms and ailments, many of which I had. I tried it cautiously, planning to see how I felt after a day, a week, a month, etc. My hair stopped falling out immediately, and after using it for several months, I am thinner and more energetic, plus I sleep more normal hours now. I am one of the individuals that iodine supplementation did help. :)

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Dawnriser November 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

Are you an idiot? Seriously.

Did you get your degree in neuroscience from the Oprah Winfrey school of the ill-advised?

You need to get to a science class quickly or maybe you’ll just live in perfect health forever with your naive and ridiculous non-science crap. We have birds that can no longer fly or remember their migration pattern. We have fish in Canadian rivers, ponds, lakes sporting tumors the size of golf balls. We have chemicals pouring into our environment that do not break down in the body. Have you ever seen someone with mesothelioma? If you don’t know what that is, look up pictures of what it does to the human body as a result of that once deemed harmless asbestos.

Right now, we have hydrogen sulfide leaks beside daycare centers. If you don’t know what that is, go to a library and off google. Ever hear of PCB’s?!? Or how about DDT that nearly wiped out the bald eagles? Or were they just paranoid and depressed? Do you think the fish in my lake have bad attitudes? Maybe I should ridicule them into health!

Do you think all the oil that has been spilled has no impact in our long term health picture? Have you investigated the effect of plastics in the environment or in human bodies? Have you seen or read about the plastic that has actually changed the chemistry of the oceans? Most of the world does not have strict, enforceable environmental laws (including North America) and use the water supply as a toilet and dump. Do you think Chinese production waste is being nicely recycled? All of the pets that died from the chemicals dumped in their food were just crazy I guess! How about the baby formula they tainted and babies died? We have childhood cancer rates exploding. Babies, just 1-2 years old with rare cancers. Are the kids supposed to eat acesulfame and aspartame (that is banned in some countries)?

Have you considered that instead of kids getting food, they are getting chemical versions of things we call food but could never grow in a billion years. We can’t even raise animals to be healthy to eat!

You are extremely misinformed if you don’t understand what we have done and continue to do to ourselves and the future generations. There are proven, researched, double blind studies the show we have serious threats to our well-being. Besides that, being a chemistry geek and working in a lab where everyday we test our local environments for toluene, benzene, VOC’s, pcb’s, pesticides, etc. and those chemicals, are now in us. We look to the environment to see the very first indications of what those chemicals could do to us.

In anything, Before you are so quick to judge, maybe you should educate yourself. Patronizing always helps people change their mind, don’t you think?

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Dawnriser November 5, 2013 at 2:59 AM

^^ @vivian, btw

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dickrichards June 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

“I truly believe that all these “diseases” eg. hypo/hyperthyroid, cancer, lupus, etc. are directly correlated with emotions and stress. Our thoughts create disease”

I “truly believe” that you do indeed believe all those things. Whole heartedly. And with great conviction. That is why you are an irresponsible tool of the worst kind.

Dawnriser already replied and addressed much of what I would have said in response to such incredibly foolish and outrageously delusional claims from this unfortunate type of person.

If it wasn’t so pathetic and sad, the words of Vivian would have been comical.

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Lisa truitt August 10, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Stress and emotions definitely play a huge part in disease but so do toxicity and nutritional deficiency. Sure, we can worry and stress out trying to avoid real and fabricated boogeymen that it hurts us as much or more than the toxins and deficiencies do. Anne Marie’s comment on balance was really good and important I think. There is a lot we can do and yet not get so obsessed about it and fearful about that we are harmed more by what we do than we are helped.

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Mie Thorsoe October 19, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Hello, thank you for an interesting post. I have a question.

My son has a rare epileptic disease, Dravet Syndrome. For 5 years only 1 out of 20 different medications has worked: Potassium Bromide, sold under the name Dibro Be: http://www.drugs.com/international/potassium-bromide.html

Do you know if this drug has any similarities with the Bromide, you are mentioning in this article?

Thanks! Best from Mie, Denmark

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:20 PM

@Mie

I have no idea about that but I would look into it if I were you.

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Nicole October 19, 2012 at 10:06 AM

So, i have had the same suspicions for the past 6 months myself! My mom started using magnesium oil on her back and then I saw 3 or 4 cherries. appear on that spot..And I started drinking beet kvass, morning and night, and now I notice 1 more cherry. My mom and I both suffer from a vitamin D deficiency…I am currently on prescription for….wonder if there is a correlation? I say this because my mom and I have both had a cherry on our bellies as long as I can recall…and then more with the mag oil and beet kvass….I am bewildered to say the least.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:19 PM

@Nicole

That is really interesting!

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Sally October 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Thanks for this post! I am also 44 an have seen these show up in the last few years. Mainly in cleavage area. I remember when I was a child, that my mom had them, too. I also thought it was just part of getting older. I purchased some liquid iodine a few weeks ago, but haven’t been using it. I had read conflicitng information about using iodine and have stayed on the fence since then. Not sure what to do… This post makes me think it could be something I may benefit from.

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Alicia October 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Makes sense! How did you figure out your Iodoral dose, and does it have a taste? Do you take it with juice? I’ve had some in my pantry for months and need to start taking it.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I started with 50 mg per day but it made me feel sick/exhausted from detox symptoms so I’m now taking 1 capsule (12.5 mg) per day and I will work up. I’m also going to start doing magnesium choloride baths a couple times a week, and I’m doing sea salt in water. I may also add the vitamin C.

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Jp October 20, 2012 at 5:57 AM

Vitamin C is really important. It helps to support the adrenals during the detox (among other things). Selenium (a non -ate or -ite form) and magnesium are also important to the protocol.

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Beth October 19, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Some natural health practitioners feel that it’s best to paint a small patch of the liquid iodine on the skin and the body will absorb what it needs.

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Jp October 20, 2012 at 5:52 AM

Putting iodine directly on the skin, unless using a carrier oil such as coconut oil, can cause dermatitis which can be hard to get rid of. That said, there are benefits for both topical and internal applications. But topically, there should be a carrier oil used.

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Linda October 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

OMG! This is so timely. Thank you for posting this. I swear, it seems like everything I’m going through in relation to diet and health always seems to pop up on your blog.
I noticed a red pimple like spot on my arm a few weeks ago that wouldn’t go away. Now I realize it’s most likely a cherry angioma. I’ve also been supplementing with tons of sea salt for my adrenals and magnesium. So based on this info, it would appear that I’m bromide detoxing. Wow! This makes me not want to detox for fear that more will crop up. Plus, my adrenals don’t need the stress.
Thank you for sharing!

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Alison October 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM

What about being born with one? My daughter has a large hemangioma on her chest…

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Sally July 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

That’s probably a birth mark. I had a large red one at birth on my chest – about the size of a quarter. It went away completely by the time I was a teenager.

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Barbara January 1, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Alison, one of my grandchildren outgrew his in about 18 months.. :)

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Laurel October 19, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I was born with several of these and they haven’t changed at all. Even when I was taking Iodoral and detoxing lots of bromide I never got more of them, and they never got bigger.

There is probably more than one explanation for these angiomas. My dad had a bunch of them so maybe I just inherited mine.

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Antony October 19, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I also have these and got my first one in my early twenties. Never really took notice of it. In my mid 30′s started getting more (once again not as many as the pic) but still enough to get me worried. They seem to come in spurts, more so when terribly stressed (was self employed during that period, but battling to make ends meet). Recently started a new job and as a result am less anxious about income and finding that no new ones have appeared. I think Vivian makes a very important point about stress and our thinking patterns and how it relates to disease.

P.S. A good way to get rid of them is to use a cheap hobbyist soldering iron. Heat it up real good and lightly just touch the skin, they disappear never to return. They basically just scab over and within a few days you would never even have known they were there. Anyway my two cents worth. Greetings from South Africa.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:20 PM

@Antony

Yikes! That sounds painful!

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Antony October 20, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Not at all…Worth the slight discomfort…They basically just melt off. Permanent solution to an unsightly problem…

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Tierney November 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Awesome! I have tried everything to get rid of cherries, from painting them with iodine (removes warts) to freezing with liquid nitrogen (removes everything!) and they always come back the same! I have a hard time believing they are caused by any kind of detox as mine have never changed in form or size or number. I think my husband has a soldering iron… I know what I’ll be doing tonight :)

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JP October 19, 2012 at 1:28 PM

An important thing to know about iodine supplementation is that you do not take iodine by itself. It is part of a protocol (as per Dr. David Brownstein). The other supplements are very important.

There are people with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis who take iodine successfully and who have reduced their symptoms, but taking iodine alone may not be a good idea.

It is also important to know that for several reasons, going by TSH levels alone are not always the best way to guage thyroid function.

Another place for information on this topic is the iodine users discussion group at Yahoo.

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cheeseslave October 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yes that is true. Click here to see the protocol on Breastcancerchoices.org:

http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

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Dina July 5, 2013 at 4:36 AM

Very true.. when I am out of my other supplements I do not take the iodine. After 4 years of Lyme Disease and not getting any better with antibiotics I began looking for the reasons why I was not improving. Cherry angiomas have always been with me since I was a child.. I noticed at a very young age (10 or so) that they would appear on my arms if I had been sweating with long sleeves on. I remember the school nurse examining my arms after a fall day’s long distance run where my arms were covered. Moving on to age 45, these spots would just appear all over and larger plus they wouldnt go away as the ones of my youth did. When I started taking the iodine I noticed that the new ones stopped appearing. My energy levels were greatly improved and I was sleeping much better. I lost 15 lbs the first month and within 6 weeks my doctor was relieved to finally take me off the antibiotics. Then I noticed my hair falling out.. I would touch my hair and it was coming out in clumps. I stopped the iodine as this was the only thing that I could think of that would do this. My weight came back up, fatigue levels too.. My doctor hesitated to put me back on the antibiotics and I came home and read .. read ,.. read. I was NOT taking the correct amount of selenium and some days none. That was my problem. I am now taking the iodine at 12.5 mg. per day, every other day. Oh yea, the angiomas for the most part are gone.

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Anna October 20, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Hey cheeseslave!

First of all, I wanted to say that I love your website! I’m german, a 22 year old student and I live in Berlin.
I really can’t rememeber how I found your website in the first place (must have been a year ago or so), but I’m so glad I did. I’m kind of stalking your website everyday…hope you don’t mind having a german stalker :-)

When it comes to iodine, I use a sea salt that has algae added. It’s from Rapunzel. Have you ever heard of it? It’s really good, I can only recommend it.

Hope you’re having a nice day!
best wishes from Berlin!

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Christa April 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Hallo Anna

How are you? Can you please tell me the name brand of this algae sea salt it sounds exactly what i need

danke

Christa :)

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Andrea October 20, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Any thoughts on using kelp for iodine?

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JP October 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM

The issue with kelp is the very real possibility of it being contaminated with heavy metals. Since the reactor blow-up in Japan, the iodine in kelp may also be contaminated.

There are, apparently, contaminant-free sources for kelp but I’d be very careful. Even then you’d probably have to eat a lot of kelp to get enough iodine.

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cheeseslave October 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Yes you have to take a lot of kelp and it’s hard to know how much you are getting.

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Leah Johnson October 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Very interesting. I have teensy tiny red dots the size of the head of a pin all over the inside of my upper arms and my cleavage. I have a few on my thighs as well. They are just under the skin, and if I scratch at them, it seems to open them up a bit, but I wouldn’t consider them to be “raised bumps.” I can’t decide if they are cherry angiomas or petechia. I have had them for a couple of years (I am 26 years old). I can’t figure out in my case what the cause could be…everything I have read recommends seeing a doctor, but I hate conventional medicine and have not ventured out to see a naturopath yet. They haven’t seemed to have gotten any worse since I changed my diet/lifestyle about 1.5 years ago, but they haven’t gone away, either. I keep hoping they’ll go away eventually or that I will read something that clicks so I can figure out what the cause of them is…

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Jennifer Greenfield D.C October 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Cherry Angiomas are also a sign of Estrogen Dominance, a common imbalance I see in both my female and male patients.

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Jennifer Henry October 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Hi Ann Marie,

Thank you for this post. I have read other things about these bumps – that they are related to estrogen dominance, or a way for copper to be stored outside the body. This is the first time I have heard about bromide, but generally the whole idea of the body finding a “safer” place for toxic compounds makes sense.

I want to point out that I believe for some people these cherry angiomas do not look red. Mine, which are the same in size and character, are brown, because I am African-American. There is no mention of this in any of the literature (this is very common – the normal medical model is not a person of color), but I thought I’d point it out in case any of your readers are not pale-skinned. I notice that as I clean my liver my spots fade a bit, and they proliferate when I feel my liver is “clogged”.

Thanks for your inquisitive mind!

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cheeseslave October 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

@Jennifer Henry

Excellent point — thanks so much for your comment!

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LMJ November 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Interesting article! I have Hashimoto’s and have the red spots which started appearing after having kids. What’s amazing is that I have pretty much every symptom listed in the article you linked to about bromide toxicity. I’m on the fence about taking iodine though as I have had issues with any thyroid supplement that contains iodine and have a fear that it makes the antibody attack on my thyroid worse. I would love to find out if I’m low in iodine but sadly up here in Canada they have yet to introduce a lab test for iodine levels.

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JP November 9, 2012 at 5:46 PM

I recommend you join the Yahoo group for iodine users. There are a few Canadians on the group, including me.

If you are interested in starting iodine, but apprehensive, you can hear from others with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis who have done well with iodine, and you can read the research they have in their files. The list owner is a naturopath who has worked with Dr. David Brownstein.

It is important to know that taking iodine alone is not recommended. It should be taken in conjunction with other supplements such as selenium which help with iodine uptake and the elimination of toxins such as bromine.

I have not tested my iodine levels but I believe that you can order the tests through the mail. I have done another test through an American company without problems.

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Meghan November 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Does anyone know of a good practitioner in the Denver/Boulder area? I had a couple of these but suddenly little dots have popped up all over my upper arms and thighs! I have hypothyroidism and estrogen dominance (oh joy). If I can’t get rid of them naturally, I feel like I will need to get laser treatment before these things get out of control! Thanks in advance.

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Saif December 13, 2012 at 4:05 AM

Hi Cheeseslave!

I’m a board certified dermatologist who sees tons of cherry angiomas on most of my patients. Much of what I do is dermatology on elderly patients. I came across your post while trying to find some photos for a presentation.

The fact is that most people will develop at least a few cherry angiomas in their lifetime, some perhaps as young in their twenties or thirties, and most by their 60′s or 70′s. I have not yet noted anyone give me a correlation with iodides and bromides. Most of the medical literature around bromides centers around acne-like dermatoses.

You can easily remove cherry angiomas with very light electrocautery in the office. Most dermatologists have the equipment to do it, and it can be very cosmetically satisfactory if done by someone who does it all the time. Since it is often not covered by insurance, I recommend negotiation to bring the price down, especially if there are only a few that are bothersome.

Hope this is helpful!

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Jen September 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Hello Saif,

You said….” I have not yet noted anyone give me a correlation with iodides and bromides. Most of the medical literature around bromides centers around acne-like dermatoses.”

Can you give us any indication why these appear other than simply aging or genetics? Something must be happening in the body to have these little red bumps appear. I would like some more scientific information, but I don’t think there is much of anything. I think the idea of detoxing is interesting and there may be something to it. We all are certainly taking in many chemicals including bromides even if we try to eat clean food.

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Saif September 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

All I know is that on most individuals over the age of 60 will have a few of these, and many adults over the age of 30 have these lesions as well. There are generally no health problems that these individuals complain of. Pregnancy may cause more of these lesions, as well as moles, to appear, as the hormone fluctuations and increase in growth factors to help the developing fetus also help to grow these benign lesions.

Some individuals have noted crops of lesions coming on all of a sudden, in which case diet may have an impact, and I can understand the interest in “detoxing”. We are just learning the impact of high dietary sugar, weight gain, malignancies and other correlations that have been suggested as contributing to more of these types of benign growths. There is so much that we don’t understand in medicine and much of what is known is really somebody’s best guess. I wouldn’t pretend to know all of the answers.

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PS January 10, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Any update?

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Ana March 12, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Interesting. Keep us updated :)

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taicraven March 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

“Yuck, right?

OK, so first of all, that picture is not of ME. And also, I don’t have anywhere NEAR that many.”

Really? You’re writing about a skin condition using the word “yuck” and caps for emphasis?
Way to make other sufferers FEEL BAD and make yourself look INSECURE.

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Mel March 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

my naturopath said these are genetic. hit it with an ILP laser and they will be gone

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Vanessa April 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I’d love to hear if you have an update at all? I’ve just been noticing these lately and I was worried, so I googled and found this. I’ve been taking Iodine quite regularily lately in the hopes of helping my Thyroid, so perhaps they are related? Would love to hear from you if you have an update on if it helped at all? Thanks!

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Christa April 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Hi all!

I have many of these coming up on around my chest and on breasts and have been on and off detoxing. I have an autoimmune disorder ITP with about 70k platelets and also have been told im hyperthyroid now. i am 28 years old i am i guessing its all linked. i read also chinese garlic has loads of bromide and i was consuming lots of garlic at one point! eek

take care x christa

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Kari April 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I have these too. They started when I was extremely stressed out and restricting my diet heavily because my nursing baby was reacting to everything that I was eating. They are on my arms and chest. Some are tiny, like pinpricks, and some are slightly bigger, like a red freckle or very small mole.

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Krissy May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

What would be awesome is if we didn’t have to find the cause for them ourselves!!! If there was actually a natural doctor who knew the reasons for them and had been successful in healing his patients cherry angiomas! I know they aren’t from getting older… I’m only 30…one very ignorant np told me they were. The first few appeared for me in the beginning of my extreme postpartum insomnia (followed by 12+ thyroid disease symptoms). I hadn’t slept in about 8 days. I remember freaking out noticing them. The only place I had ever seen them was on my dad, who was in his late 60′s, very unhealthy, and basically covered in them- chest, arms, legs…probably 50 or more on his body. I didn’t see many more for the next few years. Until a few months ago, when my menopausal symptoms got severely worse. It seemed to coincide with my thinning skin, wrinkling, developing of age spots, etc. I’m assuming they are thyroid disease or hormonal related for me. But if hormonal, which hormonal deficiency is it?

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Jessica Murphy May 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Hi I was impressed by this article and the responses but I was curious about more information on the magnesium oil and bath you were using and how the application was done. If you could email me and let me know those details I would be appreciative.

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Ann Marie Michaels May 30, 2013 at 8:36 PM
Mark May 27, 2013 at 7:08 PM

At least in Canada iodine supplementation in salt has the average Canadian well supplied with dietary iodine. Deficiency definitely happens but not common. People who are iodine deficient usually have bigger problems that caused it such as inability to eat or absorb iodine and the primary problem needs to be addressed.

A quick caution on detox. Make sure you know what you are doing. Many people use the term detox for many things from bowel irritants causing diarrhea to chelation therapy to the above suggestions. Each has risks. Just remember detoxing from fat stored toxins makes you sicker (increases blood concentration as toxin released from fat) which can be dangerous. This is why birds die in winter as they lose fat and stored pesticides are released to toxic levels. Toxic levels otherwise are rarely reached due to slow absorption of toxins and safer storage in fat.

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Jen September 20, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Dr. David Brownstein has talked about how modern iodized salt is not that effective at providing adequate iodine. I think partly because of how it’s absorbed and also the way iodine is processed – I can’t recall the exact reason. You could look more into this and I believe I heard it in a video lecture from Dr. Brownstein I found online.

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Jen September 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Here is a link to the info and talk from Dr. Brownstein where he talks about the iodine in salt not being bioavailable (was shown in a study). Though iodized salt is usually sufficient to prevent goiters, it’s not sufficient to provide adequate iodine for most people (the majority of people (North American) are iodine deficient even with having years of iodized salt).

Very good to watch all these videos of the presentation by Dr. Brownstein about iodine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzng7ddZEGs&list=PLJ0ZAcCFpXTGfZvCgwrWUKbmY9nZckFwJ

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Marcin June 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I think someone should be more interested in the viral origin of these red spots. I have not had until I started hanging out with a girl. After than I infect my current wife.

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Ann June 13, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Thanks SO much for this article! I have been searching off and on for YEARS trying to figure our their origin and what to do. Have yours faded? If so, can you tell me what exactly you did to fade them? THANK YOU! <3

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Ingrid June 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Hi Everyone, I have been researching this topic most of the day (that’s how I found this site)and would like to share the sites I have found to help me understand this whole subject(I am still learning!) I hope you don’t mind cheeseslave!

http://www.20somethingallergies.com/iodine-protocol-for-healing-thyroid/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/05/Another-Poison-Hiding-in-Your-Environment.aspx All of his articles on this topic as well

A study on Bromism http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/pb_paper/mr1018.2.chap10.html

This site has many more articles about getting Bromide out of your body with a concentration on Breast Cancer…http://breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedominancetheory.html

I hope this helps everyone understand the Iodine Bromide connection and stay safe and under guidance from a QUALIFIED healthcare practitioner.
With much Love,
Ingrid

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ps July 5, 2013 at 6:43 AM

great story. what do you take for selenium? brand? dosage? Thanks!

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mary July 15, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I just started to have one on my left upper chest. it started as a pimple, and which I thought it was just a pimple at the first, I kept peeling it off and every time I do that it bleeds even more, I started to notice that I’ve been having this for about a month now and no matter how much I try to peel it off it wont go away besides just bleeding. and I notice that maybe its not a pimple anymore because it starting to turn into a little red bump but very small like a pin hole. so as I googled it up, it sounds like it could just be a cherry angioma like some of you guys that had it too. if cherry angioma isn’t anything I wouldn’t mind it being there but it just bothers me a lot.
Any advice?? Should I atleast go see a doctor?

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Saif July 16, 2013 at 3:49 AM

Hi Mary;

I am a dermatologist who sees patients with these symptoms. I would be concerned that this may be a basal cell carcinoma. Please see your doctor about it and consider seeing a dermatologist if you can.

Saif Syed, MD

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Maranda July 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I got some of these with each of my four pregnancies, especially the first one. I wonder now if it was the pregnancy, or if it was due to rapid weight/fat loss afterwards. I EBF and lost my baby weight really fast naturally after each of them.

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Mary July 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

U know what since u mentioned that u got some of these with each if your pregnancies, I’m starting to wonder could it be pregnancies that cause these things for some of us. Because I just had my first baby and then this happen.

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Kari August 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Hmmm, that’s when mine happened too! Lost weight super fast after my 2nd kiddo (although probably bc I had a very limited diet due to her reacting to things in my breastmilk). I noticed them start when she was a couple of months old. Unfortunately, they have continued. Sigh.

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Jenn Jennings July 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I was shocked to see this post, because I just noticed one of these things the other day; I have never been one to have any kind of mole, but I have been taking Lugol’s and magnesium oil for almost a year – and I definitely won’t stop now!

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Kelly August 6, 2013 at 6:50 AM

This is interesting info! I recently had an MRI and was injected with iodine in order to assist the radiologist in reading the results (at least I think that was what it was for). Not long after, I had a proliferation of these! I had had one or two before but am now seeing them everywhere I look. I have no doubt that it was the iodine that expressed them, although I believe it was likely excessive bromine that caused them (in lieu of any other good explanation). I am looking into laser therapy to have some of the more prevalent ones removed! Thanks for your research and explanation!

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Mel August 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM

But what if you are allergic to iodine? I’m allergic to that & shellfish, the 1 time I was swabbed on accident at the dr, my skin swelled/welted up horribly, scaled & shed later…I only have 1 of these little red guys on my chest & always assumed it was a birth mark, it’s been there my whole life.

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Rachel February 6, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Are you allergic to milk too? It’s loaded with iodine..

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Jo August 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Interesting read…Methyl Bromide is sprayed in Australia on all imported foods (even organic).

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merle August 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Any thoughts on taking kelp powder as an iodine source?

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merle August 27, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Have you ever seen the body detoxing through the skin via small bumps all over the forehead and sides of the face? (they’re not red, nor are they filled with anything)

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Cheryl DeVieau October 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

I’ve had Cherry Angiomas for years! I must have hundreds of them on me by now. I have tried everything to remove them from Peroxide, bleach, nail polish remover, vinegar, Epsom salts and many more things. NOTHING WORKS!!!! Except large amounts of Salicylic Acid which is used for the treatment of Acne. If you rub this into the red spots everyday and then put some kind of concealer over the spots they evevtually go away. But I would need a hundred bottles to remove all of them. THis proves that Laser and other very expensive treatments are not the answer. I know there is something you can do to stop them & treat them but no one will help me! PLEASE can you help me. I have them all over me!!!! Cheryl DeVieau .home phone#661-949-1484.

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Rachel February 6, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Try taking iodine in the smallest dose for six months to detox the bromide out.

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Kat November 5, 2013 at 4:27 AM

Ugh. I have these all over me! Mostly teeny tiny, like I stuck myself with a pin. But some not so tiny on my chest. I had a doc tell me once that he had no idea what they were but if they got worse I might have lupus. This is why I have come to like bloggers like you and my own common sense better than most of the traditional medical community.
Thanks so much for your post! I feel armed with the tools to deal with this issue!

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shay January 2, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Thanks for sharing. For everyone reading it is important to remember everyone’s body is unique. You have to find your own individual nutrition blue print. Not everyone has thyroid issues caused by the same factors. This is why this is such a hard topic. What works for one person doesn’t always work for another. I personally was scared to try strait up iodine supps so I moved to iodized salt, began using sea greens like spirulina and chlorella daily in my smoothies and started managing my stress better to help my thyroid. I was already gluten free but it didn’t really help me with the thyroid problems. My hair was falling out and I had lost my right eyebrow. That all came back after 6 months on daily green smoothies and a high alkaline diet.

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Dr. Garrett Smith January 3, 2014 at 4:13 AM

I would suggest keeping your iodine intake to around 200mcg a day. Iodoral type dosing will cause problems long-term. Do not believe the iodine worshippers, I’ve been there, done that. We need some iodine, but taking massive doses is going for a drug-like effect (and drug effects always come with side effects). Places with high iodine intakes are associated with very high rates of Hashimoto’s.

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JP January 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Dr. Smith

Can you give citations for the high iodine/high Hashi’s connection? I have not been able to come up with much.

Also, it’s important to note that the ‘iodine worshippers’, as you refer to them, do not usually recommend using iodine in isolation.

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Kel April 16, 2014 at 8:24 AM

All the references I’ve found, including Dr. Brownstein’s work, cite iodine supplementation as directly correlated with optimum health. In Japan, as an example, their iodine level consumption exceeds Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation, and yet they remain among some of the healthiest cultures in the world. Can you help me understand, Dr. Smith? The conflicting information leaves me scratching my head????

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Raillery January 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

See this link for a great information source regarding iodine. It explains symptoms of too much iodine, not enough iodine, food sources of iodine, cooking tips for increasing iodine, and daily recommendation amounts.

Anyone using a supplement as a stand alone nutrient should consult their primary care physician first in case if you have a complex situation. High doses of iodine (especially without selenium), can cause damage to one’s health and cause similar symptoms as an underactive thyroid.

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EDB April 4, 2014 at 9:42 AM

You’re right: You’re NOT a doctor, but you are spreading idiotic nonsense.

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Tammy Roberts April 5, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Please- Cheese slave would like to have a 2014 update on your progress with getting rid of those cherry angiomas with the protocol you started.

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Kel April 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM

@ Dr. Garrett Smith, all the references I’ve found, including Dr. Brownstein’s work, cite iodine supplementation as directly correlated with optimum health. In Japan, as an example, their iodine level consumption exceeds Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation, and yet they are among some of the healthiest culture in the world.

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River May 29, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Stop with the Bromine stuff. It’s from trauma to the skin….mainly weight gain from pregnancy. Ask any good ON/GUN or Dermotologist.

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