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Annmarie Rung February 10, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Hi Annmarie

I found your website and I just wanted to tell you how much I love it. We live in Huntington Beach. My son , Alex is going to turn 3 in March and has ASD. We found out about GAPS in January of this year. Alex has been on Gaps since then. We are still in the intro phases and have cut out all the bananas and fruit he was previously eating. What a difference we are seeing! Alex is MUCH calmer and we are starting to hear some words(when prompted). Alex even said Momma for the first time( a few days after we started the diet)

Do you have any recipes for a birthday cake for Alex? I have the SCD cake recipe, but I am really looking for the frosting recipe.


PS…we found the Bison meat at the Long Beach Farmers market. This is some AWESOME meat

cheeseslave February 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Hi, Annmarie!

Your comment made me cry! How wonderful! I’m sooo happy for you and for Alex.

Here is a recipe from the pecanbread site:


Spread your favorite nut butter on top of the muffin of cakes or muffins like conventional frosting. Variations: Dot with raisins or crushed nuts or mix nut butter with honey, stirring until it reaches a nearly whipped consistency.

Another (better?) idea is to do a plain cake with no frosting and top it off with honey-sweetened coconut milk ice cream. Mmm!

You might also post on the GapsHelp Yahoo group. If you are not familiar with it, it’s a WONDERFUL support group for people following GAPS:

Please keep me posted on Alex’s recovery. If you ever want to attend a WAPF meeting in LA and meet some like-minded folks, email me. We are going to start having meetings again in LA (off the 405/10 freeways) very soon!

Angie February 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Hi Ann Marie

Since i am on your blog, I just want to drop in and say hi and thank you.. : ) This is Angie here, (if you can remember me from Kelly’s blog) i live in Singapore. Now is already 3 a.m. morning our time and I cant read further on your blog anymore. But just brownsing through it is enough to make me come back for more.


Lynita Aldrich February 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM


I count it a blessing to have stumbled upon your site. I can’t wait to have an opportunity to further explore all the great information.

I have battled RA for 10 years now and am currently at WAR with it. I am tired of watching life pass me by. I don’t want to just watch from the sidelines; I want to actively live this life. I have been blessed with two beautiful boys ages 7 and 2 and desire to not just watch them grow, but be an active part of their lives. I don’t feel like I have been able to do that too much because of this horrible disease.

I have recently started a gluten-free, sugar-free diet. A whole new world, let me tell you. It is helpful to find sites that have wonderful recipes I can incorporate in my life and grasp hold of the things I can eat and not focus on what I can’t. I even just bought my first gallon of raw milk. A huge step. I hate milk, but after hearing about its benefits I decided to give it a try. I must confess, my first taste was mixed with some espresso and raw honey. What can I say, I have to ease myself into this. I also purchased a vita-mix and am enjoying the wonderful taste of lots of raw veggies and fruits.

I am dedicated to this WAR and hope stop taking all these powerful medications at some point and to get well enough to train for a 1/2 marathon. I was up to 6 miles before this last flare that has totally put me out of any exercise. I know this is a bit of rambling, but I just wanted to really say “thanks” for taking the time to post some great tools and tips that I can use to win this war against this disease.

I’ll let you know how my first 1/2 marathon goes when I complete one. Hopefully sooner than later.


cheeseslave February 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Hi, Lynita,

Kudos to you for not giving up! I’m so thrilled for you that you are on your journey of healing! It’s comments like yours that keep me going, writing this blog. It definitely is a labor of love.

I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis at 26 years old. I don’t know if you saw the post I just did last week but going gluten-free sugar-free AND taking strong probiotics healed me within 1-2 years time.

Are you taking probiotics? I know you’re going slow but you might want to consider looking at an anti-candida diet like the GAPS diet ( to speed your healing. I have tried lots of probiotics and many don’t do squat so make sure you get one that works (I have had success with Biokult and ThreeLac. I also know people who just eat whole kefir grains and have had amazing success with that.).

Ann Marie

Deanna Hager March 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Thank you for having the GAP’s bread recipe. I loaned my book to a friend and I could not remember the recipe and I needed it. So, I googled and found yours.


Lauren Limon March 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM

I just saw this article and thought of you…(in a food advocacy kinda way)…

Lauren January 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Elena April 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Hi,Ann Marie,
Thank you for your web site. I am learning so much from you!
I want to provide best possible nutrition to my family and my 3 year old grandson.
Your daughter Kate is adorable! Thank you for children’s recipes!
Ann Marie,I have a question. I am currently looking for a crock pot. Sometime ago you mentioned that you have a lead free crock pot. Could you please let me know where can I buy such a crock pot?
Thank you.

cheeseslave April 13, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Hi, Elena!

Here is the crockpot I have (they say it is lead-free) — you can buy it on Amazon:

Hamilton Beach 33956 Stay-or-Go 5-Quart Slow Cooker, White

I LOVE this crockpot. It has a lid that locks so the liquid doesn’t bubble over like the one I used to have. Also, you can set the timer for a specific amount of time.

I love using a crock pot because now I can set it and go on about my day, without worrying about leaving a burner on and potentially causing a fire! Of course, sometimes my husband wakes up in the middle of the night and says, “Do you smell soup?” :-D

Cyndi Turnpaugh May 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Hi Ann Marie,
I have been reading your website for quite some time. I really enjoy it. You inspire me!
I have started my own blog, just a sort of person thing that I don’t ever expect anyone to read really. What does this have to do with you? Well, as I was writing I mentioned your site and put a link to it. I just wanted to make sure that was okay with you. I wanted to email you personally but couldn’t figure out this computer enough to do that. Here is the link to my page. Don’t expect much. Just some ramblings.
I would appreciate it if you let me know if it is okay. If I don’t hear from you I will just remove the link,…the next time I remember. *grin*
Have a great day!

cheeseslave May 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Hi, Cyndi! Totally fine! I followed your blog. :-)

Cyndi May 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Thank you! *smile* maybe one day I will figure this out a bit better.

Kathy July 7, 2009 at 5:40 AM

Dear Ann Marie – I just totally tripped across your post and am so excited to see you confirm what customers have been telling us about our 100% grassfed kidney tallow! I’d like to somehow link this post to our website recipes with your permission.

We feel it’s so important that others understand their bison kidney tallow needs to be from 100% grassfed bison in order to capture the highest nutritional benefits possible, as well as sustainability for the earth & ethical & humane treatment of the bison.

And the melt-in-your-mouth flakiness of pastry is the special bonus — no off flavor.

Thanks for spreading the word!
Best, Kathy
7/7/09, 6:45am

cheeseslave July 7, 2009 at 6:03 AM

Hi, Kathy! I was planning to come see you at the farmer’s market on Sat and tell you how impressed I am with your bison tallow. Seriously — I will NEVER go back to lard for my pies. Unless for some reason I’m low on your tallow. But I will be stocking up to make sure that does not happen!

Please post a comment on the post about the tallow if you would. Add your link to the recipes there.

Thanks so much!

Here Kitty Kitty July 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I’m really glad to hear about bison lard. I like to promote bison whenever I can because they are more beneficial to the environment by not eating vegetation down to the soil line. There is a special ecological relationship between bison and prairie dogs that actually promotes the regrowth of native grasses on which the bison can survive.

stephanie August 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM

HI Annemarie, Thanks for a fantastic blog. The gaps group put my onto you and I have been scouring all your posts. Terrific job.

The links on the resources page dont seem to be working. Not sure if it is my computer? I am wondering about a sour dough recipe. I have tried one and my kids wont eat it. I saw your post about the bread fermented for upto a month and wondered if you had any of that guys recipes?

Thanks so much Stephanie

cheeseslave August 5, 2009 at 6:20 AM

Hi, Stephanie!

If you are using an ad blocker, please turn it off. That is most likely the problem. It could also be some kind of plug in you are running that disables Javascript.

Re: the bread – I have not gotten any recipes from Jack Bezian. If he has a class one of these days, I will attend. I’m going to be working on making good sourdough bread over the next few months and I’ll be sharing recipes.

Erin August 14, 2009 at 5:29 AM

I noticed you mentioned you have made the NT lacto-fermented ketchup. Did you use the 1/2 cup of maple syrup? If so, do you think most of this sugar is eaten by the yeast during the fermentation period? Also, did you use canned tomato paste? Thanks for your help!

Sheila Ann August 17, 2009 at 5:01 AM

Hi There! Just made a friend request on Facebook. Thank you for such a great blog. I have been making changes in our diet and am noticing some rather significant differences!

Wanted to let you know that I was at Hollywood Farmers Market this past Sunday with my Culinary Historians Club. Picked up raw milk and bison. We will have the bison this week (first time!). Looking forward to it.

Here is an interesting article I came across and am interested to hear your (or Kelly’s) comments:


Kate19 August 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Thanks for the great site! I’m a huge fan of Weston A. Price and I love to see others getting out the message about nutrient-dense foods.

Laura N. September 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Hi Ann Marie,

I’m looking for part two of your homemade corn tortillas series, and it seems the link is broken or the post is missing. Thought you would like to know.


Leah September 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Hi – Can you please give an update on your melasma, maca, iodine and what you think worked to clear, if it’s still clear, etc? I just ordered Royal Maca and am praying it will work. I am wondering about iodine now too.

BRIDIE AVILES September 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM

I’ve always had a problem with low iron levels. When I was 3 or 4 years old,I remember CRAVING the spent part of lit matches. They tasted sooooo good to me. I can remember eyeing ashes in ashtrays but thinking it would not taste the same as the spent sulfur on the end of the matches. Living in the midwest, shellfish and clams are difficult to afford and decently raised chickens(for organ meats) are hard to come by living in the city. I found a farmer to buy my raw milk from and thought also that that was why I was still low on iron, despite my best efforts at combating that problem. I have learned alot about how your body takes in iron, not from the doctor but from my own efforts to educate myself. I cannot remember where I read it but I specifically remember reading that a diet high in fiber will also be a culprit in keeping your body from absorbing iron. Since learning that bit of info I’ve cut my coconut flour intake down but still continue with ground flax.Just wanting to give you as much info as possible to think about, not trying to gross you out. Good luck. You are a very good mom.

Angela September 28, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Hi there Ann-Marie,

I would very much appreciate how you are doing with your melasma too! Did you clear it altogether? Do you still suffer from adrenal fatigue?

How long was it till you saw results with the MACA? & what brand was it?

I’m currently taking HumetR & Chlorella for Mercury poisening from amalgam fillings – I think Chlorelle has iodone – do you think it has substantial to not warretn a separate supplement?

Thank you

Elena October 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Hi Ann Marie,
Thank you for your time and effort keeping up this site. It’s been so helpful. I wanted to ask you for advice. After knowing that I needed to do it for some time, but not willing to give up my favorite food ever-fruit, I took the plunge and started the candida diet. I read about your experiences with yeast, so I figured you could give me some advice. Do you know of a good book to read on this topic? It seems that there is really no consensus on what you can or cannot eat. Some say you can have carrots, quinoa, etc. and others don’t. I am so confused. They also say you can’t have coconut oil, but it seems to be a little counter intuitive to me. They also prohibit lactofermeted foods which also seems weird as they promote good bacteria. I am SO CONFUSED AND VERY HUNGRY!!!! I also pretty much stopped eating any grains months ago, allergic to eggs, lactose, garlic and other good stuff. Could you tell me what worked for you? I tried to take BioKult, but it did not seem to do anything for me. How did it go with ThreeLac, I am going to look into it. I have some probiotics that the naturopath has given me. Weird thing is that I seem to become constipated whenever I take probiotics, not sure what that is all about.
Thanks for everything!

Rebekah Sell November 10, 2009 at 7:11 AM

Found your site when looking for like-minded folks. We wondered if our blog qualifies for your “broadcasting” section. We are raw milk farmers and so much more. Thanks for considering and thanks for the site!

Becky and Andy Sell
Foxwood Farm
Omro, WI

Tina Kelly November 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Hi there. I have a kefir making question. I just finished making my second batch of kefir based on your simple, wonderful instructions. I used pasteurized milk, because it’s impossible to get raw milk in my town in Alaska. I waited until the whey separated from the rest, and strained it using plastic and wood. But it tastes too fermented, I think. The kefir I’m used to is from the store and it’s all thick and yogurty and has berries in it. The stuff I just made is a little bubbly, and tastes somewhere in between milk and sour cream. Did I leave it sit too long? Is that just how it tastes and I’m not used to it? How do I get it to taste more like the store bought stuff? Thanks! Love your site!

cheeseslave November 20, 2009 at 7:12 AM

Tina –

Try fermenting it for less time.

liz collins November 23, 2009 at 8:08 AM

hi ann marie,

thank you so much for your site. it is wonderful and i look forward to more time to explore it. i recently made your recipe for homemade corn tortillas and they were incredible. the family loved them! i have a problem though; i have a vita mix, not a food processor, and it seems i can’t mix the tortillas dry enough to flatten them without sticking. i had to use a tiny bit of oil and they were delicious, but fairly thick. any suggestions?


cheeseslave November 23, 2009 at 8:13 AM


I have had the same problem with my food processor. It is not ideal for making corn tortillas.

The traditional way to grind corn for tortillas is the molina:

I am not sure if another kind of grain grinder would work. It’s something to look into.

In the meantime, to make your tortillas less sticky, try adding a little dry cornmeal flour (get organic if you can). Sure, it’s not soaked but you only need to add a little. That will help you make them thinner.

I still wasn’t able to make super thin tortillas (like the kind you get in the store). I asked my housekeeper who is from Honduras about how to make even thinner tortillas. She said it really isn’t possible. She said the very thin ones are made in factories.

liz collins November 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM


Brenda O December 31, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I have been buying raw milk for the past few months. I was wondering if you knew how to make raw butter (without the shake, shake, shake jar method) and yogurt. I had read somewhere that they would drink the old raw milk that had been left out but my mind is still telling me yuk and I might die sooner than later if I do that. I am really new at making a healthier living for my family. Therefore, an abc how-to direction would be very appreciative;o)

cheeseslave December 31, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Brenda –

Here’s a recipe for how to make butter on the Food Renegade site:

Here’s info about making yogurt on the Cultures for Health website:

Sarah January 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Hi Anne marie, I’m so excited to have found your site. I couldn’t believe it when I read about your adrenal exhaustion, thyroid issues, and hyperpigmentation- I have exactly the same promblems! After many doctors who said it was all in my head, I finally found one who diagnosed me with adrenal fatigue, wilsons temperature syndrome (hypothyroid), and begining early menopause. I’m only 35! That was last year. I came off being a raw vegan, and at his advice read nourishing traditions and eat fat lose fat. The problem is, within a few months of eating in this wonderful new way, I began to have heartburn, nausea, and cystic acne on my lower cheeks and chin. Taking swedish bitters and HCL got rid of the heartburn and nausea (also reducing the amount of coconut oil I was taking). However, this acne is so humiliating! Is my body making hormones again? I take bioidenticals and stopped at one point because I was worried that was the problem. However, it didn’t help and I had no libido. Too much Vit D? I am verrrry low, so I take 6,000 i.u. and 2 ml fermented cod liver oil a day. I take T-3 and armour for my thyroid, hydrocortisone for my adrenals, iodorol, adrenal support, etc…. What should I do? All this wonderful fat is making me one big zit! No one seems to have any info on this. According to accupressure, the spots I’m getting the acne is are fallopian, ovarian, and reproductive areas. What’s going on with me? Can anyone help? Thank you so much, Sarah

cheeseslave January 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Sarah –

Hi! First of all KUDOS to you for changing your diet and reclaiming your health! That is AWESOME!

Not surprising that you had hormonal issues by eating a raw vegan diet. It’s hard to get enough good quality fat on a vegan diet. And our hormones are built of cholesterol.

Funny that you brought this up about acne, specifically on the chin. I was asking my neighbor the other day about acne. She is an accupuncturist and expert in Chinese medicine. She says acne is always either hormonal and/or related to the gut (imbalance of gut flora). She said in Chinese medicine, the cheeks and forehead represent the gut and the chin is the hormones. So she said somone with acne on their chin has hormonal issues.

I thought this was very interesting because I was just talking to a friend about how, since she started eating the WAPF way, her hormones have become more balanced and the hair growing on her chin has lessened. Same thing happened to her mom after she started taking cod liver oil.

Anyway, just some interesting things I learned.

As far as your acne, the biggest thing that jumps out at me is the fact that you are taking hydrocortisone. I’m not a doctor, nor am I giving medical advice. You should consult with your doctor. However, I do know that is a steroid and it is detrimental to your gut flora. So that could be part of your problem.

It’s so funny because 9 times out of 10, when someone’s having a problem with their health, it stems from a drug they are taking!

This is what Dr. Cowan says about cystic acne:

He says it’s all about building good gut flora.

Also, if you haven’t already check out this site:

The book is great.

Judie Osowski January 26, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Hi AnnMarie,
I love your website! We have been following the WAPF diet for about 3 years now. It’s really great to read about others also trying to eat healthy wholesome meals. I was very interested in your WAPF conference article on freeze-dried natto. Do you have any more information on whether the product will become available? It sounds like a great source of K2. Thanks so much! Judie Osowski

Sylvia February 1, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Hello. I’m thoroughly enjoying your website. I stumbled upon it while looking for ways to heal my teeth (Those destructive dentists have put their drill in my mouth for the last time!)

My question is: Where do I find raw milk in Tennessee. It is against state law to buy, sell, and consume raw milk here. Years ago, I found one farm a hour’s drive from home that sold it for “pet consumption”, but it was so much in demand that I could rarely get my hands on any. I welcome any and all suggestions as to how I can find a consistant supply of raw milk and raw milk products in this backward state.

Thank you for reading my appeal for help, and may you all forever enjoy perfect health. Sylvia

cheeseslave February 1, 2010 at 3:41 PM

@ Judie

Sorry so slow responding to your comment… I don’t have any info on the freeze-dried natto. I loved it and did try to contact them but never heard back. I am going to Expo West again this year. I will ask the people at that booth.

cheeseslave February 1, 2010 at 3:43 PM

@ Sylvia

Call all your local TN WAPF chapter leaders — they will know:

Also here is a list of raw milk dairy farms in TN:

Justina February 3, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Hi AnnMarie,

I just discovered your website last night and couldn’t wait to pass it along to my sister! I was looking up sprouting nuts and your website came up – what a wonderful find!

Please I hope you can help me with a small problem. For 5 years I have been doing elimination diets, enzymes, and digestive tract tests in order to find out why my digestive system is so sluggish. I am a Pilates instructor so it is my business to stay somewhat fit and without a budda belly. My problem is that sometimes I am so bloated (more than usual) that people actually think I am pregnant! It is also hard to connect to the deep abdominal layers because of it and I see other women with the same problem. The reason I am asking you is that the blog about naturally fermented food got me thinking that it is not about what I should emliminate but what I should add in to my diet. I am a lacto-vegetarian on a cleanse right now which means I am lacking variety in my meals.

Do you have any suggestions of why I could be so bloated and constipated if I am not eating any flour at the moment, cheeze, nor sugar. (I do succumb to a small sliver of dark chocolate when my craving is becoming obsesive). You may be able to give me a new perspective that doctors and naturopaths haven’t been able to give.

Many, many thanks in advance. Justina

adam February 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Curious if you could give me your thoughts on nut consumption. I tend to eat a lot of raw almonds and Macadamia nuts. Should I be soaking or sprouting the raw nuts first? And, if so, what is the best technique to aid in their digestion. Could you point me in the direction of an instruction source on how to treat nuts to lessen their digestive impact. All the best…See you around L.A.

cheeseslave February 14, 2010 at 1:33 AM

Hi, Adam!

Yes, you absolutely should be soaking those nuts. Otherwise you’re eating enzyme-inhibitors. Which pretty much negates one of the main reasons to eat raw food: enzymes.

Pick up a copy of Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon — you can find it at most bookstores. She has all the details on how to soak and sprout nuts, seeds, legumes and grains.

Also, here is a good introductory post that explains the basics:

Lastly, check out my recent podcast with Rami Nagel on How to Cure Tooth Decay. Lots of info re: phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors (click on link to listen to podcast):

Adam griffin February 15, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Should I refrain from raw dairy for the kids while they are congested from a cold? I’ve always stayed away from phlegmy foods while sick. We give our kids raw milk, raw butter, and raw cheese and raw cottage cheese alot, but they have been dealing with a very congested nose and wet cough for weeks now…any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

cheeseslave February 16, 2010 at 2:51 PM


I’d get their vitamin D levels checked

When my toddler’s sick I give her lots of homemade chicken stock and double or triple-dose the cod liver oil

Jessica February 24, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Hi! My husband and I are looking to relocate to Orange County and I was wondering if you (or any of your readers) know of resources for “natural living” down there. I’m interested in places to purchase quality produce and meats, safer housing options (I have multiple chemical sensitivities), health care providers, preferably a good naturopath. I’ll take anything! Thanks!

kelly March 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Hi Ann Marie,

I have just started the e course with Wardeh and i am new to NT. However i have been a fan of your blog, hers and kimmi for a while now. I would like to ask you a little bit about introduction of solids, i have read the NT book and have just bought some beautiful organic eggs, However i am a bit scared to give my baby raw liver, did you do that with your daughter??? What if the liver comes frozen, do you still keep for 14 days before using it?? Sorry if it silly questions but i really want to follow a bettter diet style and i belive NT has it all!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge!!!!

Sharon March 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Help, I’m a Newbie
I made curds and whey for the first time I used organic milk from an aseptic container. My house is cold and the milk would not separate. I did not want to heat so on some warm days I placed the jar in a box and placed in my car. It separated in 2-3 days. I then refrigerated the jar. When I days later separated the curds and whey are both bitter, but there is no odor. I don’t know what either is supposed to taste like. The whey has a milky color, but the second extraction of whey from the curds is clear. The curds look like soft cheese.Should I toss and start over. Can they be used for purposes other than consumption?


Dawney S. April 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM

This is about broth and tallow. I make bone broth with the crockpot, and don’t roast the bones first. Even though it’s just bones with very little–if any–meat attached, I always get a bunch of fat. This is even when I reuse the bones 2 or 3 times. Is this tallow? Or just fat? Is this fat usable for frying foods? Is there a reason why I’m getting this much fat from bones? I’m calling this fat, but in reality is it something else that I should discard? HELP!

Love this site. Chock full of information. When I started wondering about this, I realized this was the place to come. And, that even if you didn’t know, you’d know someone who did.

Thanks so much,

cheeseslave April 13, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Hi Sharon sorry for my slow response. Sounds like you did it right.

cheeseslave April 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Hi, Dawney

First of all are you talking about chicken stock or beef stock? Tallow comes from beef. Yes there is fat on chicken stock. It’s called chicken fat or in Yiddish, schmaltz. It is normal to get a layer of fat on any stock.

What do you mean you reuse the bones 2 or 3 times? Do you make broth with bones more than once? That is not recommended. Make your chicken stock one time — ideally simmer for 8-24 hours and use a little vinegar to help leech out all the minerals from the bones.

I just skim off the fat from the broth. I personally discard it since chicken fat is higher in omega 6s.

But you could use it if you want. I do use my chicken fat when I make chopped liver.

Dawney S. April 13, 2010 at 8:50 PM

Hi there,

Wasn’t sure how to continue the thread, so I just made a new post. My apologies.

Thank you for your response.

Yes, I mean beef bones. There’s a LOT of fat from just the bones–hardly any meat or fat attached to the bones. I didn’t expect any, so it really makes me wonder what’s going on, if I should be using it for fried potatoes, If that’s tallow, since it’s cooked long if it’s already rendered, is it collagen, etc.

Thanks so much,

Lauren January 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM

I’m looking this up at the moment too. I’m guessing it’s rendered tallow from the marrow. I got it from roasting the bones first, strained it off and stuck it in the fridge; will check tomorrow. Once I put the bones in water (and ACV) to soak, it occurred to me that there’s not much left to give colour or flavour, so I’d better hope minerals are yummy!

cheeseslave January 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Yes it sounds like rendered tallow

Adina April 25, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Thank you for all the info this is my favorite place on the web. I wish I wasn’t so late to real food. I have been trying the SCD diet for a short time for colitis I thought for years was a death sentence. I do eat dairy but only cultured dairy. I have been making my own yogurt and fermenting it for 24 hrs to assure the lactose is all digested. I found this blog and picked up the book nourishing traditions and have been trying to use only raw milk for my yogurt. The raw goat milk comes out quite thin but is very good but the raw cows milk yogurt isn’t turning into yogurt. The first time I threw it out after looking at it but today I looked at it and realized I had made cultured butter and cheese. The top of the container had a substance that looked and felt like butter but was slightly tart. the rest of the container had the texture of farmer cheese but was a little tart. I have strained both butter and cheese through cheese cloth (separately) and the whey is more cloudy than when I strained pasteurized yogurt. Any idea why I am not making yogurt? I thought maybe too much cream on the milk? Too much starter for raw milk? Do you think the cheese an butter are ok to eat. They taste good. Thanks again for putting such wonderful information out there. I know if I am ever able to have children they will be well fed.

Katie May 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I’ve been a lurker for a while, but decided to de-lurk because I’m really curious to know what you think of the report to the president from the Childhood Obesity Task Force. I’m including the link– I hope it works. Thank you for your website! It’s great!

Janice Castiglione May 16, 2010 at 6:59 PM


Could you please tell me this: Are you still involved in any way with the lawsuit over the Illinois prison system regarding the “soy-protien diet”?

My son is in the Florida prison now, and almost all of their entire diet is this. My son says many, many of the men are getting sick. They give them beans if they do not want the soy stuff. They are fearful of complaining.

We cannot afford to send him money to buy only the commisary food.

Is there anything we can do here in Florida?

Thank You Kindly, Janice

Libby May 19, 2010 at 2:58 PM

I am interesting in making the formula, but concerned about the time involved in getting the raw milk and cream as I would have to drive quite a distance to a dairy farm to get my supply. Wondering if I could use Kefir in place of the raw milk, which I can get at the grocery store.

Jennifer May 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Hi Annemarie,

I am wondering what you know about hi lysine corn and products made with it. I like the lysine idea, but am concerned by the genetic engineering.


Stephanie June 8, 2010 at 2:09 PM

Hi Ann Marie,
I love your blog.
I’m the Boulder, CO Chapter leader for the WAPF. I’m also a psychotherapist and holistic nutritionist specializing in food craving / addiction, eating disorders, and body image.
Like you, I’m trying to spread the word about traditional, nutrient-dense foods. I write for a holistic weight loss blog,, where I praise the lard and other fats, and caution against the foods of commerce ;) I would love to write a guest post for you if you’re interested. You can reach me at
All the best,

Amy June 21, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Hi there, I was hoping that you could tell me where to get the “reliable” olive oil. There isn’t any information listed on your resources page :S

Amy :)

Amy Black July 29, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Hi! Have you ever tried Bubbie’s pickles? They are lacto-fermented and I’m addicted to them. They’re SO GOOD. I want to find a good pickle recipe so I can eat as much as I want without spending a fortune. Do you have one?

lynne prucha July 31, 2010 at 6:00 AM

Dear Jeffrey,
We met @ a WA Price convention more than once…but with all the people you meet you will not remember me…I am writing because I want you to come to our lil’ beautiful fishing village of Two Rivers…on lake Michigan to speak.
I own a Wellness business here and want your info put out to all surrounding areas…many!
I am a WA Price Chapter leader…and give out the many phamphets and info you gave to us to give out…But Nothing is better than hearing you speak live!
So please give this a thought…Please!
Blessings to you & for all you do for so many!
Lynne Prucha

Amy August 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM

I was looking at the Keifer “soda” recipe and noticed it needed filtered water. What kind of filtered water should I look for or do I need to buy a certain kind of filter? What’s the best option?

Joanna Jung August 26, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Hi, there. You mentioned that liver capsules contain arsenic. I am giving them to my infant as she can not eat liver and needs the iron. Do you have any more information on that. Thank you.

cheeseslave August 27, 2010 at 8:20 AM

@ Joanna

Get the Carlson brand raw beef liver capsules. That is what I use now, and what Sally Fallon recommends.

Tina September 3, 2010 at 6:10 AM

New and just trying to figure things out. I was going to try making the salsa with the whey and hubby and I are unsure of they whey part. I was thinking if I just made some farmer’s cheese (using vinegar to curdle the whole milk) that would work. Hubby thinks we need to use whey that rennet was used …….. as I said we’re still trying to figure things out. Any advice??

Sally Farb September 21, 2010 at 9:03 AM

i run a preparedness group that has an emphasis in
nutrition dense foods. We have no web site but are
a google group. is it possible to be an affiliate with
out a website and just run the link on an email?
there are many home schoolers in my group. I was checking out your home school class offer and want to sign up my daughter soon!

tara September 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM

hello, i try very hard to feed my family well, i recently read an article about debunking food myths which just confused me. if you wouldn’t mind reading it and helping me make sense of it, i have a link… thank you so much =)

Jessica October 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Hi Ann Marie – I’ve been a follower of you for some time now. I was wondering if you could give me some info on how to become a guest blogger on Real Food Media? I have a blog of my own focused on real food, nutrition, food news, recipes, etc. and I’d love an opportunity to share my knowledge with a wider audience.

Thanks for your time!


cheeseslave October 3, 2010 at 5:25 PM

Hi, Jessica

You are on our Real Food Media blogger forum, right?

Go on there and post saying that you would like to do some guest posts.

You’re more than welcome to do a guest post for me!

cheeseslave October 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM

@ Jessica

Hmm wait I don’t see you on the list. I think I just remembered you from Facebook.

You can go sign up to join our Real Food Media network here:

Add the widget to your blog and you can then join the blogger’s private forum.

Ann Marie

Sarah October 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Hi! I just discovered your blog because I was googling about balancing my hormones naturally. Yours was the first to come up! I am very interested in your top five tips, and am excited to try them. I have two kids (4 yrs and 9 months) and i suffer from depression and PMDD. It got way worse after my second pregnancy. I’ve also been on Zoloft for about 9 months. I followed your advice and got some Maca, Iodine, and I am going to work on my diet, organic and raw, and whole grains.

My question for you is how is it going for you? Are you still taking the Maca? Did you find it worked well, and how long did you take it? I’m going to ask my doctor about it and if it’s ok to take with Zoloft, but I would really like to give it a try! I’m a big believer in doing things the natural way!!

thanks so much,

cheeseslave October 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Hi, Sarah

Good timing! I am going to be doing some new posts about how I’ve healed in the coming weeks/months.

I’ve pretty much healed my melasma about 99% (I can still see slight traces). Still working on balancing my hormones. I’ve been bad about taking supplements.

I haven’t taken maca in years but I am going to actually go back on it this month for a 30-day trial. I’ll also be taking some other supplements to help my adrenals. I want to help balance my hormones b/c I think it is at the root of my baby weight that I cannot seem to lose.

I will be blogging about all of this!

Make sure you subscribe to my email alerts or to my feed so you get updates!

cheeseslave October 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Hi Jessica

I need to approve you but I just haven’t had time since I got hacked. I will get to it ASAP

Paulo November 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Hi Ann Marie,
I googled “natto,” fermented soybeans, and received your web site. I have looked and looked but cannot find natto.

cheeseslave November 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM

@ Paulo

Where do you live?

Anna November 24, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Hey Ann Marie, I’m moving into my first apartment on my own in about six weeks and I’d really like to start fresh with regard to my pantry, since I will finally be the only one in control of it (I’m living alone, no parents or roommates to junk it up with oreos and the like!!). In your opinion, what are the absolute basics I need on a week-to-week basis for healthy eating? I’m a newbie cook so I’ll be experimenting, and probably trying to convert a lot of basic, martha stewart-type recipes to WAPF–how would you suggest I stock up? and any basic ideas for easy meals? I know this is a huge question… and it may have been answered by yourself or someone else in the past, so feel free to just link me somewhere if that’s the case. I really love your blog and appreciate everything you do! xo

cheeseslave November 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM

@ Anna

It really depends on what you normally like to eat and what is available to you in your area (and reasonably priced).

Yes it is a huge question and it deserves a whole post.

Here are some things I always have on hand:

1. Grass-fed butter, coconut oil and other good fats (get rid of the canola oil, margarine and other fake fats)
2. Grass-fed meats and wild caught seafood – I keep in the freezer
3. Raw dairy if you can find it (milk, cheese, cream)
4. I use canned beans most often but you can buy dried beans cheaper and store in the cupboard. You may also want to buy things like canned organic tomatoes or tomato sauce in jars – for making pasta and chili etc.
5. I buy sprouted flours, rice, and corn meal from To Your Health Sprouted Flour (this is if you eat grains) – you can also buy sourdough or sprouted bread or sprouted tortillas from Trader Joe’s or the health food store
6. Good quality sea salt – I use the real Celtic Sea Salt
7. Filtered water (not fluoridated or chlorinated)
8. Condiments like ketchup that do not contain HFCS. I buy organic ketchup from Trader Joe’s, also organic soy sauce, and I get my mayonnaise from Wilderness Family Naturals online.
9. I buy fresh vegetables in moderation in season – raw veggies are not a staple for us. I also buy them to make fermented foods. I do keep some organic fruit on hand like apples, berries (in season). Mainly for my daughter.
10. If you like eating salads, I would make sure you have a good quality olive oil (see my resources page) and some Balsamic vinegar so you can make your own dressing.
11. I buy nuts in large quantities at Trader Joe’s and then soak and dry them. I use them as snacks or on salads.

There are lots of good, fast easy meals in Sally Fallon Morell’s “Nourishing Traditions” — I also like a lot of the recipes in “Eat Fat, Lose Fat”

Hope that helps!

cheeseslave November 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM

@ Anna

Oh and by the way, Eat Fat Lose Fat has instructions on how to clean out your cupboards and how to stock your pantry.

Kim Knoch is starting a new blog

I just started doing this diet, too, which is why I’m thinking of it.

However it is not just for losing weight – lots of good everyday recipes in there. I made the baked chicken with coconut peanut butter sauce the other night and it was delicious, and we had the coconut corn soup for lunch — fabulous! Both were easy to make and very nourishing.

Paul November 29, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Hi Anna Marie:

I never saw any follow up or confirmation, regarding Solgar’s liver supplements, I called them they “claim” all their supplements are tested for toxic metals, yet your story has me concerned. Most liver supplements are from Argentinian cows, and liver supplements have been around for 50 years.

But like I said your story has me concerned, did you ever test the supplements themselves??



Gigi Berardi December 13, 2010 at 12:30 AM

Thank you for these wise words! ….great post and I was inspired at the last WAPF meetings to hear the bloggers speak and so I started a new one — on food!!! If you’re following S 510 — please stay posted on current status of S 510 and local food security. See my newest post at:
Best, Gigi

J. Boat December 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Hey there.

This is a question about constipation.

DId the gaps diet helped your loved ones with constipation? Are they completely regular now? Do they still follow the strict GAPS diet, or are they off of it or have they intoduced old foods back in now that they have healthier guts?

bonnie December 27, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Hi AnnMarie,
I’m writing because I am again confused…I’m working hard at cleaning up my diet (going off low/non-fat and other non-foods), then I come across this info about the Paleo diet stating, like many others, that saturated fats and dairy are BAD for us…”are low in the foods and nutrients (refined sugars and grains, saturated and trans fats, salt, high-glycemic carbohydrates, and processed foods) that frequently may cause weight gain, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and numerous other health problems”..other info I’ve come across says to AVOID butter, cheese, whole milk…do you have any good info on comparing the Weston Price type foods to Paleo foods? thanks :)

M December 29, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Hi Annmarie,

I take the Blue Ice Fermented Cod Liver oil. I don’t eat much seafood. Do I need to take any aditional fish oil? How many capsules of CLO do you take?

Thank You

Renee January 8, 2011 at 12:26 AM

HI Anne Marie,

I was one of your students in your last Surf&Turf class offering last summer/fall.. Since you’ve upgraded your website .. my links to the classes no longer work.. Please send me an update as I have not been through all the classes yet and we’re supposed to have access for life :-) so I’ve been taking my time going through all the wonderful content!

Please let me know where to go to access the content once again!

thanks !!

cheeseslave January 8, 2011 at 9:18 AM


I’m sorry this is just temporary. After the site got hacked, I had to take it all down so the hackers couldn’t get in anymore. I didn’t even have time to email you all. The classes will be back up in a matter of days. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Ann Marie

sonia January 10, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Thank you for the article on making masa from scratch. I love to eat it and it is so difficult to find organic. I’ve never seen it made fresh but am curious to try making it myself. Great writing!

Jo January 17, 2011 at 11:26 PM

I liked your recipe for coconut pancakes, but where does one buy coconut flour? Or do you just grind up coconut flakes? Didn’t see it on the resource list, either. Thanks.

cheeseslave January 19, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Jo – You can get it online. We’ll soon have some on our resources page – please check back next week:

Kathryn Lorusso January 21, 2011 at 4:55 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for all your great advice and ask a quick question. I was curious about where you get your cod liver oil gummies. My children have been taking the oil in their milk and juice but suddenly started to dislike the taste – big bummer!

I have been looking online but can’t seem to find any. Radiant Life doesn’t have them anymore?

Thank you!
Kathryn Lorusso

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Green Pasture Products but they are not selling them right now – they have to reformulate them b/c they stick together (we don’t mind)

Lisa January 26, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Ok, so I need a brainstorm session here. I’m embarking an an overhaul of my daughters newly developing Waldorf School, food program. Ok, as far as schools go, they do not need much overhaul, but why not push for even better! :) I’m proposing a school program that A. does not allow sugary birthday school like cupcakes, and B. does not do grain baking as part of curriculum. Why? Because so many kids are coming thru with allergies. Gluten, dairy, nuts, eggs, you name it, we have it. If we try and bake, even gluten free, it still often leaves out someone! (and frankly, unless you are spending lots of money on organic GF flours, most GF mixes are pretty processed food, and hardly ‘good nutrition’!) SO, I’m coming up with lots of whole foods ideas like homemade quacamole, homemade applesauce, celery with sunbutter (not the best, but you can find it organic) and raisins or other fun dried fruit…..gojis, blueberries, etc. I’m even suggesting soaking GF oats one day and having kids cook the next, and serve with topping options! Waldorf schools are big into the cooking experience, which I think is great. They already have the children bring an organic veggie one day for making ‘stone soup’. They always have a different soup based on the veggies brought in! It even inspired my 5 year old to make up her own soup recipe one day! SO, while the food program is mostly good, I’m pushing for great! I thought this site would be a great place to find like minded parents who have ideas up their sleeves!


Lauren January 27, 2011 at 2:20 AM

*groan* I WISH I had a kindergarten like that here! I’m noticing a downward trend in behavior from all the noodles and fake gravy my kid gets in her 3 mornings at “school”. Snack-wise, my 2yo likes dried anchovies, walnut-stuffed figs, pancetta-wrapped dates, raw fruits&veg, plain nuts, unsweetened yogurt – what about the kids making counter-top yogurt? Or baked oatmeal? Waldorf also stresses the lovely smell of baking in its focus on the senses, so you can’t go 100% raw. Soaking/sprouting almonds in a glass jar makes them “magically” expand – lots of learning there. Check out the RF homeschoolers forums for more ideas. Good luck!

Jill February 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Hi AnnMarie,
I recently listened to the tapes from the wapf conference on food activism. I became so inspired that I started a blog (as above). It is not quite ready yet to advertise or link to, as I am not finished creating it. However, at the conference you stated that you would be starting a class to instruct others how to use social media. Has that happened yet? And when will be up and running again? I am anxious to see that site. Many thanks for sharing so much. This has been a game changer for me and so exciting!

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Hi, Jill,

I haven’t launched my new social media class yet but you can find my new social media blog here: is up and running again. I’ll have a forum back up again on there soon. Subscribe to the mailing list on there so you get updates — or join our facebok page

connie February 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Your brownie recipe sounds fabulous.
Excuse my ignorance, but is vital wheat gluten the same gluten
many people are avoiding for personal health reasons?
Thank you for the great info!

Cindy Wheeler February 8, 2011 at 7:17 PM

HI, Thanks for the info on Maca. I would like to try it and have found many sites that sell it. Would you give your site? I’m sure that you put a lot of research into the product that you choose. Thanks for the help and Cheeseslave.

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I have bought it from a couple different vendors online and I have also bought maca from the Peruvian guy who sells it at our farmer’s market.

I think there’s one called Royal Maca and another called Maca Magic online.

Allison February 9, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Hi AnnMarie,
My question relates to your blog style itself. What is the comments system that you use? I have a blog on which I’m finding it difficult to create a comments section below each blog post. I know I could use Wordpress, but I’m using Tumblr. Is your comments field built in to your wordpress page? What I like about yours is that if someone shares his/her website, it automatically gives a link to the latest blog post. If you have a chance to answer, I’d appreciate it!

Thanks very much,

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 3:50 PM

I use Thesis

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM

The thing that shows the blog post is a plugin called CommentLuv

Wendy S February 16, 2011 at 6:39 AM

Hi AnnMarie, I just found your site when desperately searching for info on hormonal imbalance, pms and menopause. In desperation with my anxiety symptoms which I feel are due to approaching menopause I started on MACA powder, 1/2 t per day, but I am concerned about the iodine connection. I have read MACA is high in iodine and yet you suggest adding lodoral iodine supplements to it? I cant figure that out…
Also, reading about the side effects of MACA on other sites has me panicked about using it, but I had begun to feel better after only a few days so now I am also afraid to NOT be using it. But I dont want to mess up my thyroid either.

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Sorry but I can’t give you advice based on your particular situation – I would seek out a nutritionist or naturopath who can work with you.

I do like maca personally and also take iodine on and off — but it works for me.

Wendy S February 16, 2011 at 6:41 AM

Hi AnnMarie, I just found your site when desperately searching for info on hormonal imbalance, pms and menopause. In desperation with my anxiety symptoms, which I feel are due to approaching menopause, (I am 48) I started on MACA powder, 1/2 t per day, but I am concerned about the iodine connection. I have read MACA is high in iodine and yet you suggest adding lodoral iodine supplements to it? I cant figure that out…
Also, reading about the side effects of MACA on other sites has me panicked about using it, but I had begun to feel better after only a few days so now I am also afraid to NOT be using it. But I don’t want to mess up my thyroid either.
Any insight you can give me will be greatly appreciated!

Pattie Brewer February 17, 2011 at 7:44 AM

Jenny –

My daughter is turning 1. We have been feeding her from our table lots of the nutrient rich foods we are learning about here. (She LOVES your potato leek soup & the winter squash souffle! Imagine me making a souffle!) My husband and I are continuing to lose weight & get healthy. However, my question if what kinds of snacks to use for our daughter. I don’t want to use the traditional gold fish crackers, cheerios, yogurt drops, and whole grain processed puffs. However, what do you recommend for meeting her needs? We are currently switching her to raw milk from her formula. She gets a pastured egg, milk, and a piece of fruit (banana, orange, etc.). For snack I have been using puffs and yogurt drops (organic & all that) from whole foods, but want something better for her. For lunch she eats my meals (soups, potatoes, fish, meat, etc.) and the same for supper. What do you recommend? I want to give her a balanced diet, but also have some quick snacks to feed her (I can make crackers & store those & that counts as quick. I just need something I can keep in her diaper bag for travel as well as grab to feed a hungry baby at the last second.) I have looked on the WAP website, but their toddler food ideas are sardines, anchovies, and liver. All three things I have major food taboos for (the fish just look disgusting) and liver I hate personally. Is there a way to make these foods in a way that I can eat them & give them to my daughter? I have purchased the blue ice fermented cod liver oil WAP recommends, and am using it to offset the nutrient deficiencies we have from not eating the whole fish. (We do eat salmon, oysters, and shrimp.) Will these types of foods help her grow healthy & strong or do I need to use the anchovy/sardines/liver foods?

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Sardines, anchovies and liver are awesome foods for kids!

I fed those to my daughter for as long as she would eat them (after she turned 2 she got picky) I say give her those for as long as you possibly can. If you don’t like them, you should learn to like them. Kids can smell a rat and they’ll know if you think they are yucky.

I’m about to publish a post about how to pack for a plane trip — it will have all the snacks we pack for trips or to go to the playground and such.

Look for it soon!

Pattie Brewer February 17, 2011 at 3:13 PM

My family and I have just started eating healthy real foods (Nourished Kitchen) this year. I was wondering what you used as transitional foods for your children. I have a daughter who will turn 1 yr old next month. She eats real foods like us for meals, but her snacks I am trying to find easy to eat healthy quick recipes for her. (Make ahead is okay.) We just purchased the fermented cod liver oil & butter recommended by WAP foundation. However, the idea of sardines & anchovies gross me out. When I’ve fixed liver I hate it. I know these are super healthy, but I just can’t get over the idea of fish eyes and all or the taste of liver. Do you know ways to cook these that taste good? Will eating salmon, shrimp, and oysters be enough if paired with the cod liver oil or do we need the anchovies & all. I know it is silly, but the mere thought of eating one makes me sick to my stomach!

cheeseslave February 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Oh I just responded to that other comment… then started reading this one and thought, wow, what a similar story… LOL!!!

I say, get over your issues w/ sardines and anchovies. They’re actually quite good once you get used to them. Try anchovies on crackers or pizza. If you don’t like canned sardines, try fresh sardines grilled with a little fresh lemon juice. Yummy!

It takes eating a food 10+ times to overcome a food aversion acc to Jeffrey Steingarten, author of The Man Who Ate Everything (one of my fave books).

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