Farmer Feeds Doughnuts and Cookies to Cows

by Ann Marie Michaels on July 9, 2010

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Feeding Doughnuts & Cookies to Cows

Would you feed doughnuts and cookies to cows? This dairy farm does. What’s more, they are proud of it. The photo appeared here on the “Dairy and Health on the Farm” blog (nutritiouswisconsinmilk.com).

The blog and farm are owned by Wisconsin dairy farmer, Laurie Kyle. Kyle posted this comment below the photo:

Laurie Kyle said:
May 30, 2010 6:05 AM

Dairy cow nutrition is the same as people nutrition. People could not live on one ingredient alone. In order for a person to function properly there has to be a balanced diet of protein, carbohydrates and fats, water and vitamins and minerals. Dairy cows are the same as they need all of the same ingredients. Yes, donuts are part of the carbohydrates mix as cows can metabolize this product and use it for the needed energy to make wholesome milk. Bakery is part of the simple sugars that can be turned into energy when mixed with the other needed ingredients. Yes, it is true, everything in moderation, even for the cow! Man can not survive on grass alone!

Notice the girl’s jacket — when you blow it up, you can see that it says Monsanto:

Cows Lying in Manure

Not only are the cows fed nutritionally empty white flour bakery waste full of trans fats, they are also living in a barn, not on pasture.

But Laurie says they are comfortable, lying in manure and sawdust:

Laurie writes on her blog:

The Kylecrest Holsteins are very comfortable in their 82 X 184 compost dairy barn. They are laying on the compost which is manure and sawdust tilled three times a day. The sunlight is shining through the opening on the top and the sun is coming through on the sides. The girls have fresh feed available 24/7 and water too! What a life!

Hmm… doesn’t look like a lot of sunlight to me.

Laurie Kyle, Raw Milk Hater

Laurie Kyle is also anti-raw milk. On a blog post about Wisconsin dairy farmers pushing to make raw milk illegal, she posted the following comment:

Laurie Kyle says:
May 14, 2010 at 9:56 pm

My son became very sick three years ago drinking the raw milk and ended getting hospitalized for several days. It was traced to the raw milk he drank from our dairy and it was something he wasn’t used to. He ended up getting Guillan-Barre syndrome that was triggered by the campylobater bug that my son was diagnosed with. I want Governor Doyle to VETO this bill because I don’t want to have to worry about what this could do to our dairy industry if there was a big problem. Science proves that homogenization and pasteurization is what we need to do to milk in order to kill the bacteria.

Is it any wonder her son got sick drinking the milk from their dairy?

Cows Eat Grass, Not Doughnuts

The truth is, cows were never meant to eat a diet of grains. Cows don’t eat corn and soybeans. Cows eat grass!

Cows on pasture, eating an exclusive diet of grass and hay, have produced healthy raw milk for thousands of years.

It was only when we started feeding unnatural foods to cows that they started producing unhealthy milk. Case in point, the swill milk produced by cows in the 18th and 19th centuries. These cows were being fed whiskey mash, the leftover grains from distilleries. This milk ended up killing half of the babies in New York City (yes, a 50% infant mortality rate).

The Untold Story of Milk

To read the whole story about factory swill milk and how pasteurization seemingly solved the problem (not by fixing the milk but by killing the germs in unhealthy milk), check out Dr. Ron Schmid’s book, The Untold Story of Milk (you can download two sample chapters at that link).

I can’t recommend this book highly enough. When I read it, it absolutely blew me away and convinced me without a doubt that raw milk from cows on pasture, eating grass, is the only way to go. I started buying raw milk that week and have never looked back.

Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy. Educate yourself about where healthy milk comes from (hint: not from cows eating doughnuts).

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FoodRenegade July 9, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Oh wow. Just wow.

The part that really gets to me is that she gave this milk to her son and was surprised that it made him sick! Those poor cows. That poor boy.

While I’m all for raw milk, people need to use some common sense. Cows need to eat grass and bask in plenty of sunshine (as well as be milked in sanitary milking facilities) in order to produce *safe* raw milk. Otherwise, yes, it’s far too risky.

Thanks for sharing this in today’s Fight Back Friday carnival!

~KristenM
(AKA FoodRenegade)
.-= FoodRenegade´s last blog ..Fight Back Friday July 9th =-.

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Kristen July 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM

This story would be comical if it wasn’t so sad. I love Cheeseslave almost as much as my Claravale milk and cream!!! Sorry, AnnMarie, but I think you understand :)

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AnnMarie Deis July 9, 2010 at 3:25 PM

I am so thoroughly OUTRAGED by Ms. Kyle’s bogus and ignorant comments about raw dairy. She obviously has cows that are tainted with bugs — probably from the doughnuts and cookies that they consume and the poo they lie around in. I think our forefathers came to America for freedom and liberty. When government starts to threaten to take away our rights to eat foods in whatever forms in which they are found in nature, I am reminded of the original Boston Tea Party. DISGUSTING!!! Makes me want to move to an island . . .

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Val July 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Absolutely SUPERB post, Ann Marie! It rendered me speechless.

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Peggy July 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM

“Monsanto” jacket. Cracked me up. The rest? Not so funny.
.-= Peggy´s last blog ..Blackberry Muffins and Sunshine Smoothies =-.

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Mindy July 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM

That is simply atrocious! I am appalled…
.-= Mindy´s last blog ..for your viewing pleasure =-.

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Debbie July 9, 2010 at 4:01 PM

that is just sick, totally utterly sick.
no words.. just shocked.
.-= Debbie´s last blog ..The Real American Heroes of Food Series Begins- =-.

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Joanna July 9, 2010 at 4:03 PM

I am disconsolate that this is happening. What are we doing to our beautiful world and precious food providing animals?

Cows are ruminants, thus designed to eat grass, hay & silage, and not high fructose corn syrup & trans fat laced packet food. We all know that man can choose what to eat, if someone wants to eat fast food & drink fizzy drinks they have a choice, a cow can’t move on to pastures new, sadly.

I do rather wish you hadn’t shared this… but thank you for doing so.
.-= Joanna´s last blog ..Nurturing self =-.

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Paula July 9, 2010 at 4:07 PM

You’d think as a dairy farmer, she’d know better than to feed her cows doughnuts and have them lying on a “compost floor”. When I was a kid, we lived next door to a man who raised a small herd of cows for beef. Even as a kid, we knew the cows ate the grass in the field and in the winter, they were fed hay bales that had been made from that same grass.

No wonder her son got sick. Poor kid.
.-= Paula´s last blog ..Fall-Winter Garden Planning =-.

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Cara @ Health Home and Happiness July 9, 2010 at 4:17 PM

So gross! There’s a dairy around here that does that as well. They get the stuff that’s too old to sell from Hostess and give it to the cows, wonderbread, the sweet rolls, food dye filled ‘pies’, etc. They said they don’t give them the twinkies just because it takes too long to open the individual packages. These are cows that are raised for meat, gross.

We just visited our dairy where we get milk from- lots of open pasture and a clean barn. So good to see animals treated as they should be!
.-= Cara @ Health Home and Happiness´s last blog ..Zucchini Lasagna- gluten and grain free- =-.

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Cara @ Health Home and Happiness July 9, 2010 at 4:18 PM

I mixed up up above- the cows that I know that are getting Hostess are meat cows. But either way- gross!
.-= Cara @ Health Home and Happiness´s last blog ..Zucchini Lasagna- gluten and grain free- =-.

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HeatherM July 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Great post, this just serves as a reminder that “modern” dairys are truly the enemy for our health. It is soooooo frustrating that people can not see the truth, no thanks to the FDA. My little girl and I drink raw milk but my husband refuses. Raw milk healed my little one from issues that the doctors could not figure out. I stand 110% on the health benefits of raw milk. It really is sad that Laurie thinks that the plate full of crap is good for the cows. Cows and grass go hand in hand just like peanutbutter and jelly. She should actually have a lawsuit filed against her for endagering her son. And I am not a sue happy person. The sad thing is the little girl in the picture doesn’t know any better and she thinks she is doing the right thing. Oh….and I received my very first batch of beef tallow today from US Wellness Meats and I absolutly Loooooovvvvvveeee it!. I could not get anyone to go in on a 5 gallon pail with me and I am so glad now because I get it all to myself :)

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Pam Arndt July 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM

What makes this even worse is, this woman’s lobbying is one of the things that influenced the Governor to veto the bill. Someone from Wisconsin who raises their cows correctly needed to be there to shut this woman down. Sad, sad, sad…

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HeatherM July 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM

I forgot does anyone know if I throw the tallow away after I use it or can I save it to fry again in? My in-laws, who are from the South, save their “modern day” bacon fat to reuse. I look forward to anyone who responds because I can’t find any info on this. Thanks!

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Melissa @Cellulite Investigation July 9, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Excellent investigative work, Ann Marie! This post is a must-tweet!
.-= Melissa @Cellulite Investigation´s last blog ..Final Thoughts on Dr Berkowskys Skin Brushing System =-.

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Jody July 9, 2010 at 4:48 PM

My DH knows someone who fed his cows the pulled shelf products (expired, I assume) from a particular chip company. I think they were steer and not dairy cows, not that it necessarily makes a difference. Bleh.

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The Coconut Mama July 9, 2010 at 5:44 PM

GROSS!!! This post is so sad and really gross. Poor cows =(
.-= The Coconut Mama´s last blog ..GLUTEN FREE SPROUTED TORTILLAS =-.

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Heather July 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM

It’s no wonder she has on a Monsanto jacket. The family must be somehow related to the CEO of that company- no doubt seeing as what they consider healthy.
This is beyond sad….far, far beyond.

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Pamela P. July 9, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Great post! Totally unbelievable that they are feeding this junk to cows, are proud of it and think it is part of a balanced diet. So ignorant.

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Virginia July 9, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Love it! SOOO sad!

Let’s see…their cattle win awards:
http://www.walworthcountyfair.com/archives/judging_results/2006/open/
They’re subsidized:
http://www.fedspending.org/faads/faads.php?database=faads&reptype=r&detail=-1&datype=T&sortby=f&recip_cat_type=f&fiscal_year=2007&sum_expand=PACS
They’re running for the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board:
http://www.agriview.com/articles/2008/04/24/dairy_news/dairy03.txt

No thanks, I’ll still to the raw dairy down the road!
.-= Virginia´s last blog ..Baked Hake with Herbs =-.

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Jen July 9, 2010 at 6:26 PM

How very sad and dreadful.I can only think it is a matter of time before there is some BSE type of outbreak among such conditions.She is clearly ignorant of both animal and human nutrition-how could she think that garbage is fit for human or cattle consumption?Does she not understand that cattle sustained countless generations of people perfectly well before refined carbohydrates came along?
This really highlights the need to know where our food comes from.I wouldn’t want to touch the milk from that dairy!no pasteurisation on earth could sanitise that milk!
I am so grateful to be able to buy our raw milk from a family who drinks it themselves,they treat their cattle like royalty.The Untold Story of Milk was also the book that caused our real milk conversion-fantastic information.
By the way,I am always astonished when I visit a zoo or similar,and read the signs”Do not feed us your snacks-they make us sick”Our family’s health is unspeakably precious-how can people think this food is good for any living creature?Such an emotive subject….

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Lori July 9, 2010 at 6:40 PM

This is totally absurd! Sounds like Monsanto propaganda to me!!!

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Deborah Wolfe July 9, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Reminds me of the movie ‘Idiocracy’, which is supposed to be a comedy but rang so true it was difficult to laugh. In that movie they were ‘watering’ agricultural fields with a ‘Gatorade’ substance, rather than water, because of a wildly successful ad campaign claiming “it’s what plants need”. Food sources were drying up around the world because no body could get it through their heads that plain WATER was ‘what plants need’.

I have decided Monsanto is the closest thing to an evil empire as we are ever likely to witness.
.-= Deborah Wolfe´s last blog ..Why We Love Designing Websites for Lawyers =-.

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Sally July 9, 2010 at 7:41 PM

While I didn’t grow up on a farm, I took a few courses on dairy cattle judging in college (U of Minnesota) and met quite a few farm kids as we toured family farms (similar to the dairy operation blog discussed here), and I can tell you that every one of them drank milk from the bulk tank at their own farms. When you have a dairy herd, you might raise a boy calf or two for slaughter, and you drink the milk from the bulk tank. It’s not thought of as “whole foods” or local or raw or anything–it’s just what you do when you have 200 dairy cows.

It is certainly possible times have changed. Obviously, my experience is anecdotal. But if you’re going to wear a (presumably) free seed company jacket, you might be the type to drink the free milk coming out of your herd.

The barn these cows are pictured in is one of the nicest barn styles you can build. The cows aren’t forced to stand or sit on concrete, inside. A breeze can blow through, keeping the air a bit fresher and the cows cooler. That’s why this farm is so proud of their sunny barn. Every cow I’ve ever judged/seen that wasn’t at a county fair was as dirty as the cows pictured.

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Jessie July 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM

so disgusting! Glad I know my farmers.

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Michael July 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Great catch on the Monsanto labeled t-shirt. :-)
.-= Michael´s last blog ..The China Study Has No Clothes- Smackdown Of T Colin Campbell =-.

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Darlene July 9, 2010 at 10:58 PM

The first thing I noticed was how sickly the woman looks. She looks malnourished. Great story.

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Jennifer July 9, 2010 at 11:04 PM

I was just reading yesterday about what is considered foodstuffs for livestock and that frequently, cookies, candy, bubble gum, bread and other things are fed to cattle, and not even taken out of the wrappers. That’s down right cruel. I’m all for freedom of choice, if you want to feed your cows that junk, please don’t make me drink their milk.

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Anna July 9, 2010 at 11:12 PM

A few years ago (not long after our family had begun consuming raw dairy) I got together with some college girlfriends and their families. One is married a nice guy who struggled for some years to make it as a dairy farmer, which had been his life’s dream. I don’t know how many cows he had, but it was a very small dairy farm in Central Upstate NY. No matter what he tried, he couldn’t make a consistent living as a dairy farmer, and eventually he sold the herd and went into teaching and sports coaching. He was gobsmacked that I (and many other people) are willing to pay top dollar for raw milk (provided it is produced and handled in a safe and proper manner).

He told me about how the bakery trucks would show up as his and other local dairy farms to unload all the stale/past date products they had picked up during their delivery routes. Additionally, he received deliveries of stale/past date snack and candy products from trucks after they serviced their convenience store routes. Often there wasn’t even enough time to remove all of the wrappers, esp on small items like candy bars. The paper wrappers were considered much like straw – fiber for cows. He said this “free feed” was great for the milk supply – the more stale bakery and smack foods the cows ate, the more milk the cows produced – but he hadn’t really given it much thought in terms of the quality of the milk – as he was paid for the quantity of bulk milk he produced, not the quality, and at the end of the day, the quantity was was counted.

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Mary July 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM

“According to a 1998 Science magazine article, cattle fed mostly grain have a lower (more acidic) intestinal pH and are more likely to harbor pathogenic bacteria than cattle fed mostly grass and hay. The abnormally low pH in which the bacteria develop makes these bacteria acid-resistant. “The ability of bacteria to act as food-borne pathogens depends on their capacity to survive the low pH
of the [human] gastric stomach and to colonize the intestinal tract of humans,” the authors write. “Cattle that were fed grain had one millionfold more acid-resistant E. coli than cattle fed hay.”
Page 324 from The Untold Story of Milk

That quotation just relates to grain in general, not deep fried grain made from white flour and sugar.
I real a little of your blog and you don’t sound like a bad person or one who hates her girls, just the opposite. However, I think it would be wise to take the time to reexamine the consequenses (both for the cows and the human consumers of their milk) of feeding them one of the least healthy types of human food available.
I would suggest the following. Take one cow, how about your least healthy one, and let it graze. Don’t supplement with grain, and just see how it’s doing a few months later. You can draw your own conclusions.

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Lovelyn July 10, 2010 at 2:34 AM

This post is absolutely shocking to me. I’m appalled that people allowed to raise animals that they obviously know so little about. I went to the blog and the author had written a comment about cows needing a varied diet like people and that simple carbohydrates and sugars help give them energy to produce milk. What on earth is she talking about?!! Since I don’t have access to raw milk I choose not to drink any milk. This is the exact reason why.
.-= Lovelyn´s last blog ..He’s Leaving Home =-.

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Wendy (The Local Cook) July 10, 2010 at 7:45 AM

I, too, saw this practice when I lived next door to my ex in-law’s dairy farm. The above poster is correct – it’s hard to make a living with a conventional dairy farm (this one was large, milked almost 1,000 cows) and the old bread, fruit loops, etc. are very cheap to feed them. Rather than getting angry at the farmers I feel sorry for them, because they are stuck on a treadmill that they did not create. Hopefully enough people are sick of the system that we can change some things.

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cheeseslave July 10, 2010 at 7:56 AM

@ Heather

Monsanto works with kids in ag programs in schools — they want to get them indoctrinated early!

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cheeseslave July 10, 2010 at 8:01 AM

@ Sally

Yes, I just toured a conventional dairy farm recently. They had this exact kind of barn and they were proud of it too.

And they told us they feed the cows chips from the local Frito Lay plant — they were very proud of this, thought it was a “sustainable” practice. They said, “If we don’t feed it to the cows, it ends up in a landfill.”

Interestingly, their Jerseys only live 5.5 years on average, about half the time cows on pasture live.

However, they did not drink the milk. All the milk went to make cheese.

I would think that if they did drink the milk, they would pasteurize it first.

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cheeseslave July 10, 2010 at 8:03 AM

@ Anna

Excellent point. Conventional farmers don’t make quality milk, they make quantity — that is how they are paid.

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Randy July 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM

So they’re being fed GMO HFCS!

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MamaBee July 11, 2010 at 1:28 AM

I’d seen this blog before and thought it must be some kind of joke. It’s just bonkers! I’m so thankful for our clean, pasture-fed raw milk source. I’m so sorry for those kids and cows on that sick factory farm. Gross.

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cookie July 11, 2010 at 6:28 AM

thank you so much for writing this!
it’s important to “showcase” our farmers for the work they do, good and bad!

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Podchef July 11, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Feeding stale bread is an easy trap to fall into….. when I got into Raw Milk dairying 20 years ago, the small farm I interned with got stale, day-old bread for free. It came in 1/2 ton amounts and we picked it up twice a month. This small dairy used it to stretch the grain they fed the cows during milking, and as a “treat”. The cows grazed day and night, but twice a day during milking they would get a loaf of multi-grain bread, or some donuts or a pastry. This “treat” was something extra, not part of or figured into their total ration. At the time I thought it was innocuous enough. This farm also entertained a lot of visitors and interns and we all ate the better of the stale breads…no shame there. What became moldy, or those brands the cows didn’t prefer all then went to the pigs.

When I launched out on my own with dairy cattle and pigs I quickly looked up the bread store where we had been getting stale bread. It no longer was free, but still, a ton of day-old breads–some organic–cost a fraction of what grain cost. I was proud of saving money, producing grass-fed milk, feeding my family and my pigs on a valuable waste-product….recycling a resource. I continued this way for almost a year.

But then I began to analyze what I was doing & re-evaluate my costs and methods in an effort to become more sustainable. While the pastured pork I had raised at a profit had sold out, I was un-impressed with the texture of the meat. It was soft and somewhat mushy, despite the fact that I had finished my pigs on apple and barley. (I was also feeding cull potatoes as well….)

Meanwhile my friends at the dairy I had interned at were beginning to have issues with some of their cows. Mastitis and listeriosis had never been an issue with them. Somewhere along the way–perhaps when HFCS became the norm in everything, including breads–the farm’s cows began having mystery illnesses and problems.

On my own farm I was becoming overwhelmed by the cost of this once-free, still cheap resource. It was cheap alright, until you weighed up the labor and garbage bills…. All the bagged bread and boxed pastries generated a ton of garbage. They all had to be unpacked, unwraped and the un-recyclable garbage thrown away. The annoying clips were everywhere. On windy days bags would blow around all over the place. I began to re-think my options. Combined with the trips to pick up the bread on certain days when it was available–usually outside of normal trips to town–I realized it was actually costing me alot more than I thought. So I stopped feeding it all together.

Sure, I no longer have the security net of shaking a bag of bread and calling the cows–to which they always came running….. But I’ve noticed several things…. The cows health is better. They are bloomier–they have a shine to them. They belch less. They still get a bit of organic grain when in the stanchion and are grazed the rest of the time. And the pork? The batch I fed no potatoes or bread to, had amazing flesh. Still richly colored from foraging, still pastured and herby and appley. But the texture was firm, and the meat cooked up better.

And the milk? In taste tests with my panel of raw milk drinking experts–a wife & 5 daughters–the milk tastes tons better. It is sweeter. The butter and cream don’t sour as quickly. There is more of a grassy, herby, sweetness to the milk. The Kyle’s dairy is but one of many who takes the short-cut of feeding crap and waste-products to dairy cows and cattle. They, like the others, never bother analyzing what they’re doing. Never bother tasting their own product in a critical light. Commodity products for commodity cows. I am so glad, as innocently as I had stepped on it, that I was able to wake up and jump off that unmerry-go-round.

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Elisa July 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM

I am not trying to defend this particular dairy farmer, but by reading the post and comments, it makes me think some of you are detached from the reality of dairy farming. For a lot dairy farmers, it is very tough to make a decent living and it is VERY hard work. I am speaking from experience having grown up on a dairy farm. While I do not agree with the way this farmer is feeding her cows, conventional dairy farmers are not evil people trying to harm anyone, they are just doing their job, and taking advice from all of the so called experts. (These experts are people from ag. colleges, corporations, and feed suppliers.)

Change won’t happen until consumers demand it (and are willing to pay for it) and unfortunately real food and raw milk consumers (including me) are in the minority right now.

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Jen July 11, 2010 at 4:06 PM

I think we need to advocate a traditional ,nourishing diet for animals,too!God or nature did not teach cows to eat bread or pastries.Sweets and pastries were always luxury items,and I can’t imagine people ever feeding them to their livestock in days gone by,as they were too expensive and too hard to come by.
I think it is hard enough for we modern people to make our own breads with machinery,and all the steps it takes to sprout or ferment traditional breads would have been so much more labourious for past generations.Surely they would not have been wasteful people as such,all their bread scraps would have been utilised in their own cooking,past generations were far more resourceful in dealing with their food leftovers,as so many old recipes demonstrate.Grass is what is traditional and nourishing for cattle.

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Randy July 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM

I lived on a farm in ’64 and the cows were fed hay, from bales that were collected from the field. That’s what cattle are supposed to eat! Amazing how the globalists have twisted people’s perceptions around, so that they believe the illusions.

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cownutritionist July 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM

As an animal scientist and dairy expert, I must first say that much of the information in this blog is opinion and myth and not based in sound science.

(1) There is nothing wrong with feeding bakery to cows. It is not a large portion of their diet. Most of their diets are forage (50+%).
(2) Cows are wonderful creatures and have the ability to utilize much of these products that are otherwise wasted. Bakery by-product is just one of the many things a cow can utilize. Whole cottonseeds are another.
(3) There is NO association with feeding of bakery by-products and increased pathogen load in the milk.

That said, if you, as a consumer, want to consume milk from a farm with different practices, go search those out and purchase your dairy products from them. It’s your right, and you make your choices and spend your money how you see fit. If you want to drink raw milk and take that gamble, go right ahead. Survival of the fittest, right?

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Elizabeth @ The Nourished Life July 12, 2010 at 6:41 AM

Elisa,

I think what most people are offended by is that this woman claims with such exuberance that donuts and cookies are so healthy for her cows, that the cows are wonderfully happy laying in their sawdust bed, and that raw milk is essentially an evil, harmful food. She completely disregards our right to choose our own food while glossing over (well, completely ignoring) any problems with conventional dairy farming methods. In fact, she takes what most of us would consider to be the problem and glorifies it instead! And maybe she just doesn’t know any better, but honestly I get the impression that she chooses to be that way.

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Elizabeth @ The Nourished Life July 12, 2010 at 6:42 AM

Oh, and that was some great detective work to catch that Monsanto label on the shirt, Ann Marie. It’s really quite telling.
.-= Elizabeth @ The Nourished Life´s last blog ..Meal Spacing and Intermittent Fasting Q and A With Matt Stone =-.

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Melissa July 12, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Years ago, I worked at a supermarket bakery in South Florida. We would bag up all of the old doughnuts, pastries, breads, and cookies each night. A farmer would come in the next morning and pick all of this up to feed to his cows. Apparently, this is not a new idea. At the time, I was 16 y/o and didn’t know much about food and nutrition. However, this practice still bothered me because of the waste that was involved. There were two to three large garbage bags full of food at the end of each night. Yuck!!! Sadly, supermarkets can’t give their leftover foods to homeless shelters or to the poor because of legal liability. If someone gets sick, they may sue the company. I guess its not a problem to make the cows sick.

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tbird July 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM

Sadly, we would have done the same thing had it been available. You’re just trying to feed your animals, keep them alive, and feed your family. When my family still farmed (70′s, 80′s, some 90′s), it would have been inconceivable to turn down free or cheap feed so as not to taint their pasturing.

I’m glad the grass-fed and raw milk movements now exist, but they are not at all obvious solutions to a farmer.

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Randy July 12, 2010 at 11:40 AM

@cownutritionist:
Expert, my ass! Who do you work for – Monsanto? Suggesting cows eat GMO cottonseed!? Pastries are full of GMOs (corn, soy, canola and cottonseed). You obviously haven’t read any REAL studies on GMOs; like the one where second generation rats became sterile (these are the ones that didn’t just outright DIE)! Cattle are meant to graze on grass – NOT eat MAN MADE pastries and certainly not genetically tampered with frankenfoods!

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Heather H. July 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM

cownutritionist-I’m really glad you’re not the “animal scientist and dairy expert” at the farm where we get our milk.
We changed one thing in our diet. Got rid of conventional dairy and switched to raw dairy from a farm that only feeds their Guernsey’s grass.
1. My sons eczema disappeared.
2. My husbands Colitis and abdominal pain is gone ( he was scheduled for surgery to remove part of his colon, now he’s 100% fine!)
3. My adult acne went away in 6 days
How would anyone explain the disappearance of 3 different diseases in 3 different people. Or rather: what was causing 3 different diseases in 3 different people? Poisonous milk perhaps?

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Carrie Oliver July 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM

I can attest to @Podchef’s milk from when he was on Shaw Island. It had a sweet, herby flavor and delicate yet rich texture. His beef (from the same pasture) was similarly herby. Both were delicious.

Which brings me to Anna’s point that her friend “was paid for the quantity of bulk milk he produced, not the quality, and at the end of the day, the quantity was was counted.” This is the truth for beef, pork, lamb, and chicken, too. I think the way to break this trap is to celebrate those individuals and co-ops who purposely seek to create signature-style flavors and textures, based on the natural geology, climate, and forage in their areas and the breeds that thrive there. This natural variety is something to celebrate, not try to overcome, as is done in the commodity system. When we collectively start rewarding flavor and husbandry, as no doubt most of the people on this site do already, my feeling is we’ll all be better off, including the livestock.

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Elizabeth @ The Nourished Life July 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM

@ cownutritionist

Why don’t you try feeding a human a diet of 50% pastries and see what happens.
.-= Elizabeth @ The Nourished Life´s last blog ..Meal Spacing and Intermittent Fasting Q and A With Matt Stone =-.

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.ambre. July 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM

I read this yesterday and am still just as disgusted today! I really wish raw milk were legal in Iowa, but at least we can get vat pasteurized, non-homogenized milk from the local Mennonites!

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jana @ Weeekend Vintage July 12, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Ohmygoodness…the world has gone crazy! What are these people thinking? That they know better than God? Next they will be drinking coke.
Jana
.-= jana @ Weeekend Vintage´s last blog ..I Want to be Yvette- =-.

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Roger July 12, 2010 at 6:19 PM

This girl does not have a clue!! Like most of society, who live in a fog from eating this crap. It is very sad, we are in a state of DE-Evolution from the corruption of our food supply.

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Randy July 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM

For those of you who are unaware; industrially farmed animals are fed a diet of mostly GMO corn and soy. The same GMO crap that is in virtually all processed food (canola and cottonseed, also) and if you read the labels on most pet foods – it’s the same garbage. Also, if you don’t know, the reason you don’t see anything labelled GMO is because criminal enterprises like Monsanto and DuPont are NOT required to label them as such. It’s the same with meat from “cloned” animals, which was approved by the FDA a couple of months ago – it’s an easy search! I wish people would WAKE UP to what’s REALLY going on in this disgusting world. Codex Alimentarius, which is also controlled by the GMO agri-giants and Big Pharma, want to BAN small farms, alltogether! The same with nutritional supplements, vitamins etc.. The corporations want it ALL!

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Roger July 13, 2010 at 6:04 PM

makes me wonder if we will see some major worldly changes around the end of 2012? I think the Planet is in need of MAJOR changes and will cleanse herself of all of us!!!

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Jenn AKA The Leftover Queen July 14, 2010 at 8:04 AM

I think the Monsanto logo on the girls jacket says it all.
.-= Jenn AKA The Leftover Queen´s last blog ..Goose Egg Vanilla Custard =-.

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Jennifer July 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM

A lot of the folks on here are making a big mistake in assuming a ruminant digests food just like humans. They don’t, it’s a very different process. Cows couldn’t eat grass if they didn’t have a rumen, which is essentially a fermentation vat populated by bacteria. When you feed a cow, you are really feeding their gut bacteria. The bacteria are what the cow ends up digesting for nutrition. The bacteria in the rumen also allows the cow to digest different food stuffs because the bacteria acclimate to what the cow is eating. If they eat grain, the bacteria that do well on grain expand in population to adjust to grain. If they are on steady grass, the bacteria that do well on grass take over. Same with doughnuts or KitKats or whatever else comes down the pike. Is it natural to feed by products? No, but it isn’t the same thing for a cow as it is for humans. Or pigs, come to that. Pigs aren’t ruminants, either, and digest food more like humans. It takes an adjustment period on the part of the bacteria when you switch diets on a cow, but generally in a few days, the appropriate bacteria in the gut have multiplied and are ready for the new food. It may not be a natural diet, it may not be the best diet, but you can’t compare human and ruminant nutrition and say it’s bad for cows because it’s bad for humans.

Please realize that that is scientific fact, and is not open to interpretation by people just because they don’t understand it.

If you don’t like the idea of cows being fed that way, fine. But don’t base it on the idea that it’s bad for humans so it’s automatically bad for cows. You are talking about apples and oranges.

The woman cited in this blog is a fool for getting excited about raw milk for almost the same reasons: Her son was not used to drinking milk from the farm and when started on it, got sick. Big whoop! If you aren’t used to the pathogens in your food supply you can get sick. You need to acclimate to bacteria over time if they are pathogenic like this herd has. And we can’t do it like a cow’s gut bacteria–it takes us longer. But for her to turn around and say all raw milk is bad is just the height of ignorance. Which isn’t surprising considering what she is spouting for ruminant nutrition. She’s about as uneducated on it as most people commenting on this blog. And that’s not a slam, it’s a fact.

And btw, those cows aren’t very dirty. Have you ever seen cows that have a favorite shade tree in a pasture? They’ll look just like the cows in that picture. They like to get in the shade when it’s hot and they don’t care where they crap, and they won’t care where they lay as long as it’s in the shade. That’s the nature of a cow. (I understand pigs are clean animals that way, but I’ve never raised them to know that from personal experience). But cows just aren’t wired the same.

Yes, I’m being contrary, but when people say they are disgusted over something they obviously are not educated about, it drives me nuts. :) I was raised on this farm and ran the dairy on my own for 20 years. I always pastured my 40 cows and they had hay in the winter. Even in the winter they could go outside and roam around. The only time they were shut in was during blizzards. I always drank raw milk and never was sick from it and won’t buy milk from the store now that the herd is gone because it doesn’t taste good. So I know where everyone is coming from.

Jennifer

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Mother Nature July 18, 2010 at 7:47 AM

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1594223194
Anyone want to be her friend?

She’s seeking a degree in Nutrition Science and will be done next month! Clearly that does not put my mind at ease…

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Dani July 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Looking at the picture of the cows, lying with their udders and teats smashed into their own manure… There’s no amount of cleaning that will sanitize appropriately. If I was lying around in dirt all day, I’d probably develop a few pus-filled sores… Furthermore, without the grass and a diet of probably mainly corn and or/soy, too (note the Monsanto jacket…), these poor animals have an acidic pH in their bodies–sunshine and breezes or not–that causes them to have a suppressed immune response, so the milk itself was probably tainted, too. It’s no wonder that the little boy got sick, and very, very sad that it happened. Nothing can enrage a mama bear more than her little one getting sick, and that is the saddest part of all–if the cows had been pastured, it’s highly unlikely that the little boy would have become ill, and she would probably have been one of the most upstanding and vocal advocates FOR raw milk. It’s quite sad how prevalent factory farming has become.

I am no scientist, but I do believe in a Creator, and I believe He made cows to live off of grass, not over-processed and unnatural foods. They weren’t designed that way, and while people and cows have significantly different physiology, the same thing IS happening to people as is happening to cows: disease, sickness and early death in the form of diabetes, cancer, heart disease for humans; in dairy cows, their livers are shutting down and they are dying (or being butchered) at 6 years of age, after having only a few calves, instead of living to 12-15 years of age and having a more productive life.

In response to cownutritionist’s comment that we can go down the road and get our milk somewhere else: unfortunately, thanks in part to the woman whose son became ill, it is ILLEGAL to choose one’s own food (esp raw milk & raw milk products) in many places. Would that it were otherwise!!!

If I were to drink milk from this woman’s farm, I would INSIST that it be pasteurized, and I wouldn’t drink very much of it. However, 100% pastured animals (except when in milking parlor) that have been properly cleaned before milking, will remain my preference.

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pjnoir July 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Its a total lack of respect for the animal. I always read about how wonderful a company feels because they found a way to pass on their waste as animal feed, cut me a break- it is cruelity to animals what they do.

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pjnoir July 31, 2010 at 4:15 PM

No wonder some diary farmers are opposed to Raw Milk- they would have to clean up their act and produce clean safe milk- something they don’t do now. I’ve seen dairy farms in NJ and PA and they is so much manure EVERYWHERE, knee deep around the barns, on the walls, on the cows and all over the cats- and the smell (dryheaves). I’ve seen raw milk farms that are spotless and smell like the earth, clean and crisp. Lazy farmers use to gov’t handouts- the original industry of bailouts.

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Debbie in GA September 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Breaks my heart what they feed the cows! It’s animal abuse pure and simple.

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Rob O. October 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM

I wouldn’t feed that garbage to a dog, much less an animal that I intend to consume the byproducts of.

Perhaps I’m just ignorant of the economics involved, but I don’t understand how feeding cows corn, soybean, and other stuff they were never intended to consume and then dealing with the miriad of problems that doing so causes can still be more cost-effective than just giving them grassy feed. I suppose the pathetic living conditions would still mandate antibiotics, but surely even in the factory setting, letting cows eat the appropriate food would be a big step in the right direction.
.-= Rob O.´s last blog ..Let There Be Light =-.

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LeahS July 20, 2011 at 10:02 PM

That is truly shocking. You know what I think is funny… people aren’t meant to eat dougnuts either! And even if they were, we have quite a different digestive tract than those moo cows. And that argument against raw milk? I honestly don’t get it. What kind of logic is that.

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coconutfreek July 21, 2011 at 4:13 PM

that picture of the cows laying in manure, now awful. there is no reason for that. no wonder they have to kill the milk to make it to the store………its a wonder it doesn’t taste like you know what……

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Joe M June 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM

No doubt that woman is an idiot. I can see why she REALLY wants to outlaw raw milk. She knows she could end up in a lawsuit. We have idiot farmers in KY who hit the bread stores to buy expired pastries to feed to cows. It is really idiotic. No common sense in this part of the country at all. You know what though? The mentality of these farmers is to make their money and to hell with common sense or ethics. This is the same mentality we see in corporations that are more concerned with making a profit instead of protecting the well being of others. A disgrace. These are also the same farmers who hire illegals for $2 hour to save money.

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Julie Morris August 19, 2012 at 6:42 PM

My 5 and 8 year old walked in and wondered why that girl was holding a tray of cookies. I told him they were for a ladies’ cow’s. His reply, ” Everything about that is WRONG.”
My 5yo said, “That is not healthy!”
I don’t feed that junk to my kids either.
What a crazy dairy farmer!

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Matt October 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I am a dairy farmer, and I feed byproducts to cows. One side benefit of bakery product is the fortification in the bread helps the cows. Cows stomachs will become more acidic if too much rapidly fermentable carbohydrates are fed, this is called acidosis. This can happen to grass fed cows on new spring grass as well and confined cows fed to much bakery waste. what keeps my cows healthy is feeding a balanced diet with appropriate levels of fiber (Hay- protein – and carbohydrates).

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