If You Hate Matt Stone, Don’t Read This Post

by Ann Marie Michaels on January 27, 2012

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I love science. Ever since I was a little kid and I did my first science project. I took two groups of my my mom’s basil plants. I yelled at one group and for the other group, I played classical music. I was amazed when the plants I yelled at withered up and died. We made pesto with the ones that got the classical music.

I get some flack on my Facebook page for not being “scientific” enough. Guess what, folks? I’m not a scientist. Never claimed to be. I like reading about science, and I like pontificating about it on my blog. But I ain’t no scientist. I’m a blogger.

One of the things I love about Matt Stone’s 180 Degree Health blog is that he is not afraid to test different theories. He is interested in actual physical tangible results. Me, too. What’s the use of a bunch of scientific theories if they don’t work in real life.

Every time I post ANYTHING about Matt Stone on my Facebook page, I get slammed six ways to Sunday. People seem to really hate that guy.

I try not to make knee-jerk assumptions about people or ideas. I try to be open-minded and explore different things. Because you know what? Science is all about asking questions. And it’s all about being open to what the answers might be.

Love him or hate him, I think he’s on to something.

Matt Stone of 180 Degree Health and Ann Marie of CHEESESLAVE

Healing Hormones and Hypoglycemia

As many of you know, I’ve been recovering from low adrenal and thyroid function for the past few years. It wasn’t until a few months ago that I realized that it was hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) that was at the root of a lot of my health problems. I figured out (thanks to Julia Ross, author of The Mood Cure)

Last night I read this on Matt’s blog:

The hardest time for most people to hold on to their salt and sugar is from about 10am to lunch. Because of this, you might note that eating foods with a high water content causes greater sugar crashes. When I was on the full program, eating a breakfast of say, oatmeal with juice and a big slice of watermelon and then trying to drink the water and lemonade? Fuhgeddaboudit! I would be peeing every 15 minutes with urine solute well below 0.5 brix – and feeling cold and flat.

Enter the pancake… Eating pancakes, waffles, muffins, banana bread, fried eggs, cookies, fruit pie – without much food with a higher water content such as milk, juice, and fruit? Now that’s what I’m talkin’ bout. These foods will make you much warmer and keep your sugars from crashing. I think one of the greatest benefits of processed foods like this isn’t even that they are more digestible but the fact that the water content is lower. This is a godsend for those who are really in a low metabolism rut, as even the smallest amount of fluid from food or drink beyond the bare minimum requirement to stay hydrated can cause some pretty violent crashing. Even having breakfast cereal with milk can be too much fluid for some.

I write this as I chew on the most delicious PB & J EVER. Made with my homemade sourdough bread baked this morning. Oh my word, is this good. Our new Slovakian nanny squeals with joy every time she comes in the morning to find freshly baked bread. She says the bread in America sucks and she’s absolutely right. It does. I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to become a bread baker. But that’s another blog post…

Yeah, I’m washing it down with a glass of raw milk. If I had some olive oil potato chips, I’d be eating those too (they never last very long in our house).

For breakfast, I had half of a freshly baked whole wheat sourdough bagel with cream cheese, plus some eggs scrambled in butter.

Hypoglycemia and Hormones

Here is what really struck me about what Matt wrote. He says that drinking too much liquid (whether it be raw milk or water or juice) can actually cause our blood sugar to crash and cause our hormones to bottom out.

I’ve been tracking my temperature for the past several months (and YES I will be writing a post about how to do this in the near future). It was around October that I decided to start eating a LOT more. I pretty much doubled my food intake. I used to eat just two meals a day, and the meals were small. I just wasn’t that hungry! (I’ve since realized that it was zinc and magnesium deficiency that thwarted my hunger pangs.)

I’ve gained a little bit of weight but not much. I can still fit in my jeans. The thing is, I’m not trying to lose weight right now. I’m trying to heal my hormones. When my hormones get healthy, weight will not be an issue. Because our hormones control our metabolism.

What’s really, really great about this is the fact that my temperature is REALLY coming up! I’m averaging about 98.2 nowadays (this is an average of 3 temperatures taken 3 hours apart during the day). I’m just starting to also take my basal body temperature and that’s been around 97.8 the past few days (Matt says that’s GOOD!).

I’ve been eating a traditional diet for four years now and my temps have never been this high. But I’ve been eating a pretty low-carb diet since 2007. It’s only recently that I threw caution to the wind and started RRARFing (Matt’s method of Rehabilitative Rest and Agressive Re-Feeding).

Of course, there’s a whole lot of things I’m doing right now. I’ve been taking maca and herbal infusions and cod liver oil… but I’ll be honest — I’m very forgetful and I don’t take them the majority of the time. I’m also sleeping on an earthing mat and sleeping in total darkness.

I truly think EATING MORE has been the number one thing that is helping my hormones return to normal (Or actually, let’s not shoot for normal. As Dr. Rind says, let’s shoot for OPTIMAL.)

Grains, Blood Sugar and Body Temperature

But what really struck me about what Matt wrote in his post yesterday was that eating low-water foods (such as “pancakes, waffles, muffins, banana bread, fried eggs, cookies, fruit pie”) helps to bring your blood sugar up.

It occurred to me that I’ve seen the biggest jump up in my temperature in the past couple weeks. I was still dropping down to the high 97s a few weeks ago.

What have I done differently lately?

I’m getting ready for my online cooking class, Healthy Whole Grains. I’ve been testing recipes morning, noon and night. Pizza, cookies, biscotti, bread, waffles, pancakes, muffins… you name it, that’s what I’m eating for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Mostly whole grains, but some white flour as well. And all of it is sprouted or soaked or made with sourdough. And yeah, I’m eating eggs and meat and soup and other things, too. And I’m eating lots of starches, too, like potatoes and tapioca pudding. Not a lot of veggies although I do like sauerkraut and I have an occasional salad. Fruit here and there as a snack.

I’m not going to make any proclamations here or tell you that everyone should eat whole grains every day. The truth is, not everyone should. Some people with a damaged gut need to stay off grains for a period of time. Sometimes even for life. (Although I think the percentage of people who can never eat grains again is very small.)

But I do believe that gluten is not the enemy that a lot of people make it out to be. Antibiotics, chlorinated water, the birth control pill, unfermented grains, nuts and seeds — those are the things that damage your gut and make gluten hard to digest. But properly prepared grains are not the enemy.

I have much more to say on this topic but I can’t do it justice in this post.

All I can say is this is working for me, and I’m curious to see where it will take me.

Dinner with The Stone and the LA FitExpo

I’m going to have dinner with Matt Stone and a group of other bloggers tomorrow night in Los Angeles. I’ll be posting photos on my Facebook page so stay tuned.

Matt’s going to sell me one of his refractometers so I can start monitoring my blood sugar.

We’re speaking at the LA FitExpo on Sunday — if you’re in the area, come see us! I have 3 FREE passes I can leave for you at Will Call. If you want in, comment below.

What Do You Think?

Share your comments below. And all you Matt haters, watch your language. This is a family blog.

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Kris Peterson January 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I love Matt Stone and his total in your face kind of attitude. I have his 180 Degree Cookbook and I really want to give his diet a try as I have sluggish adrenals and I am hypothyroid. To be honest, I have been a coward thus far, maybe your experience will give me the balls to do it (whoops, I don’t need balls to do anything) the gumption to do it.
I enjoyed your blog posting and look forward to hearing about the end result. I am a health blogger and I love experimenting on myself as well, so we have a lot in common. It is always so much fun to read about others who share the same joy.

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nicolette @ momnivore's dilemma January 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I am gluten-free, but by no means grain-free. The grains I do eat are properly prepped now, thanks for WAPF and NT. My temp has risen from the low 97s to the high 97s. Still have a lot of work to do, and just started FCLO {which is working major charms on my skin and energy levels}.

I agree, Anne Marie, what good is science, especially regarding health, if we don’t use it in real life?

I once saw somewhere on FB {and I don’t think this is from Matt’s site}…

Be your own healthcare.

Love that. Especially because my PPO won’t cover any supplement, nutritional “counseling” or alternative treatments, which as any autism mama will tell you it’s $1000s a month.

I buck the system by finding D.O.s here in Chicago that appear western, but really are not.

Great post. Pontificate as you will. I’ve learned a great deal from reading your site over the past year.

Here’s to higher body temps…

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Love your crochet post! I got some yarn, a couple books and some crochet hooks in Dec. I SUCK at it. I”m still trying though… :-)

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Donielle @ Naturally Knocked Up January 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM

You tube is my favorite crochet instructor! I made Todd and DS hats with beards and learned all the stitches on You Tube.

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Robin January 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM

yay! first one to comment. I will say that I find Matt’s stuff long and complicated sometimes but also incredibly interesting. I have also started tracking my temps the last couple weeks, and at first, I was trying to follow the method of taking it three times per day and charting the average. However, I was not very good at doing it at regular times and always remembering to take it throughout the day. So, I’ve started just taking my temp first thing in the mornings and tracking that. Do you have an opinion on which method is more accurate? I did notice that when I was taking it throughout the day, there were some definite ups and downs, and I know that can be a sign of thyroid/adrenal issues (my chart is very jagged). The good news is that my temps the last couple of mornings have been 98.0 or higher!

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Robin January 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

lol, not the first one after all, by the time I finished typing, 3 other posts! :-)

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Robin January 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

lol, not the first one after all, by the time I finished typing, 3 other posts! :-)

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Matt likes the BBT (Basal Body Temperature). Dr. Rind likes the average of 3 temps throughout the day.

I”m now doing both because I’m rather obsessive when I’m passionate about something.

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Robin January 27, 2012 at 2:01 PM

wow, so are you charting both as well? (as in two separate graphs?)

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM

@Robin I just started charting BBT so I guess I could create 2 separate graphs.

LOL so funny… when my daughter was a tiny baby I was charting her sleep and wake cycles in a color-coded spreadsheet

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Andrea January 27, 2012 at 3:44 PM

What thermometer do you use? I have a crappy one from Wal Mart and I need to find a replacement.

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Christine January 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

1.Do you think that temps increasing is one of the first signs of hormone balancing?
My temps have increased over the last year (I haven’t been following any one diet/way of eating in particular, but I don’t do low-fat or low-carb I do try to do non-gmo, less processed, etc.) but I haven’t seen improvement in other symptoms yet.

2.I haven’t seen much mention of mental/emotional health and its effects on physical health within low-carb/primal and WAPF blogs. What does Matt Stone believe about this-does stress (due to how you think and feel) harm first, or does poor eating make you susceptible to stress, or a combination?
Going with my gut, I lean towards the first one (I think physical health is the bottom layer/level, and health from higher levels eventually trickles down unless there is a serious blockage) and a combination after that.

Thanks for your post!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 2:01 PM

1.Do you think that temps increasing is one of the first signs of hormone balancing?

Yes. It’s not just me who believes this. Matt Stone does too, and so does Dr. Rind and many others.

2.I haven’t seen much mention of mental/emotional health and its effects on physical health within low-carb/primal and WAPF blogs. What does Matt Stone believe about this-does stress (due to how you think and feel) harm first, or does poor eating make you susceptible to stress, or a combination?

You’d have to ask him. He calls it RRARF because it includes Rehabilitative Rest (and aggressive re-feeding).

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amy January 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Matt believes very strongly that stress creates issues. In fact, one reason he likes the Rrarf diet is because it lowers food stress. He’s big on keeping stress low, eating plenty of whole foods, and getting enough sleep.

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amy January 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM

He thinks it’s a combo, though.

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Christine January 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Thanks, Amy.

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Lauren January 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I’m seeing a return to carbs from a lot of people in various “camps”, particularly once the low-carb benefits slow down and the underlying hormone problems become undeniable. It makes sense – ketosis is a signal to the body that you’re living meal to meal.

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Aja January 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Undeniable? As in, there’s no safe way to eat a no/low-carb diet as a lifestyle?

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maria January 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

what’s a refractometer? can you share more about that?

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Yes I will write about it after I get it.

It’s a thing you can use to test your blood sugar.

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Nicole January 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

This is very interesting but very confusing to me. I am on Gaps and have been for a long time. I am just now starting to loose weight from inspiration from the kettlebell challenge and also from eating more coconut oil. I have always wondered about thyroid and adrenal issues as I know I have some of the symptoms. But the talk of grains confuses me. If I eat any grains or anything high-carb I stack on the weight, and fast. Also, I thought coconut oil is meant to help heal the thyroid?

What is the no. 1 book people would recommend to learn about thyroid/adrenal issues??? I don’t know anything about temperatures, etc.

Thanks,
Nicole
Australia

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Amy Love@Real Food Whole Health January 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I would really stick with what you are doing…it seems to be working and you have negative effects when you go to grains. I will say that as a nutritional therapist, I have seen both sides of this whole “grains” issue and while I am open to the idea that grains can be part of a healthy diet when properly prepared for some people, most folks with blood sugar dysregulation and/or gut damage have a really, really hard time when they eat carbs, and it’s only by limiting or eliminating these for a while that healing is able to occur.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM

It makes sense that people with gut damage would have blood sugar issues IF, as Matt is proposing, blood sugar issues is caused by malnutrition. Gut damage causes malabsorption.

I think healing the gut is critical and has to be done first. It took me 2 years to heal my gut and reverse my gluten intolerance.

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susan January 27, 2012 at 10:52 PM

how will you know when your gut is healed? i plan on going on the gaps diet soon, and just wondering how i will know when i can get off of it. thanks!

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GC May 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I think this is a loaded question and I’ve wondered if anyone else might be wondering this as well… After reading so much negative on GAPS diet by Matt Stone, and seeing your interest in his nutritional approach (experimenting?), I am beginning to wonder, if you had to do it over again, might you have approached your healing differently? If so, how?

The main reason I ask is because we are currently on GAPS Intro and I have to say that not only do I feel stuck, but I would like a much more balanced approach that would avoid potential harm, i.e. adrenal/thyroid, in the long run. Could there be such a thing? I’ve been meaning to ask this for awhile on your Q & A, and it just seemed to fit here.

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GC May 2, 2012 at 11:57 PM

In reading the comments further down, I think my question is answered. But your comment, “After 2 years, my adrenals were healthy,” intrigues me in light of your more recent posts about your temps and all that. (Or was it that your adrenals were fine, but your thyroid wasn’t?) Didn’t you mention that your carb restriction contributed to that? I guess there’s no easy reset button for fixing your gut. The more I learn, the more lost I feel. I just want to stop thinking about food!

We have seasonal allergies, btw, and they were virtually gone this year thanks to GAPS Intro. However, I feel very stuck at Stage 3-4 and would like to move quickly through to Full GAPS, albeit w/o shocking our bodies. Would you say that Full GAPS is effective enough for healing over the long haul? This Intro stuff is making me really nervous.

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Erin (Pretty In Primal) January 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM

The number one thyroid book I’d recommend (from a whole lot of personal experience reading thyroid books) is http://www.thyroidbook.com . It covers all the various causes and patterns of hypothyroidism, which can be rather complicated.
I went in circles for years trying to fix thyroid problems and it wasn’t until I was properly diagnosed with autoimmune thyroid disease and got on an immune balancing protocol (including gluten free, since 95% of Hashimoto’s patients are gluten intolerant) that I finally felt normal again- it only took a couple of weeks to start feeling a lot better!

For adrenal issues: http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-the-21st-century-stress-syndrome-book

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Karen January 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I’ve been reading “Feeling Fat, Fuzzy, or Frazzled?: A 3-Step Program to: Restore Thyroid, Adrenal, and Reproductive Balance, Beat Hormone Havoc, and Feel Better Fast!” by Richard Shames. It talks about how the Adrenals, Thyroid, and Reproductive Glands all work together and when one gets off-kilter, the rest are get off-kilter too.

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Melissa @ Unmistakablyfood January 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Wow! I’ve had blood sugar issues for years – low blood sugar between meals. I recently tried going on the gaps diet. While I was on it, I didn’t have any noticable blood sugar crashes, but I had to stay away from all starches including squash. There were a few times while on the diet that I cheated and ate grains, and I couldn’t help but notice that they did not cause a problem for me. In fact, I felt great after eating them, even if they were not properly prepared or even whole grains. I have since discovered that I do well on a low-cab diet but need carbs maybe once a day or so. However, that’s beside the point. What I really couldn’t figure out is why the grains didn’t seem to affect my blood sugar, but something else did: whenever I ate a broth-based meal, such as soup, or meat and rice in a bowl of broth. My blood sugar would go CRAZY! I would be going dizzy every time I stood up, heart arrythmias, the whole works. I’m thinking he must be onto something.

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Simone January 27, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Now that you mention it, same thing happens to me when I eat soup a lot – especially beef stew.

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Tiffany @ The Coconut Mama January 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

After a year of no sugar/fruit and low starch I was always exhausted and could not lose weight for the life of me. Read Matt’s blog I checked my body temp and found it to be 95 degrees…. So, I started eating a lot of fruit and starch (mainly corn, potatoes, starchy veggies) and my body temp raised to 98.00 in just a month. Grains can help, but if you’ve got gut issues or need to keep grains out of the home because of a family members allergy, then up the fruit and starchy veggies!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM

WOW What a great testimonial!

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Kayla December 7, 2012 at 6:21 PM

This is awesome to read because I am having the EXACT same problem right now! I’m following the candida diet very strictly (except I cheat on a bready food about once every 2 weeks for sanity’s sake. Rice gets boring) and I’m into my second month. I was feeling great initially, but I’ve added light working out at my gym into the mix and I feel awful daily! My muscles hurt for a whole weak from light lifting, and my weight just sticks…and yes I keep my portions small.

My fat/muscle ration is the same, if not worse before the diet, and I’ve ALWAYS had an athletic build. Now I’m getting a little depressed I guess b/c I have a big trip in 3 weeks and I’m worried about my fatigue/and let’s be honest, my figure. I ran into Matt’s book today and am about to start so I’m checking out your testimonies before I start,so thanks guys!

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Amanda T January 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I’m on a GAPS type of diet for now. i’ve been on it for about a year due to major digestive problems. Reading all this recent news about grains and thyroid function is a tad disheartening only because I know my body is not ready for grains yet. It might be… in another year. I have hormonal issues probably tied up with both my thyroid and adrenals…. so I feel stuck on whether or not to continue doing GAPS, or if doing GAPS is just going to make my hormone problems worse. Also, we’re TTC… decisions! decisions!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Why is it disheartening? It should give you something to look forward to!

I was off gluten, sugar and starches for 2 years while I healed my gut. I did heal.

My adrenal function was in the TOILET back then too. I took LOTS of adrenal and thymus gland over those 2 years.

I healed. You will too.

Oh and if you still have food allergies, stay on GAPS. I kept at it until all my symptoms were gone.

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Josefina January 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM

isn’t it possible that your staying off starches for two years is what contributed to your hormonal issues now (or worsened them)? i have had digestive problems for my entire life, and I toyed with the idea of doing the GAPS diet, but it seems wrong to me that a diet which can easily cause hormonal disturbances is said to heal ‘another’ part of our body. because digestion is regulated by the endocrine system, one cannot heal in the true sense of the word while at the same time abusing our adrenals by avoiding starches. i know how horrible i feel when i don’t eat starches with each of my two main meals.

to Amanda T, go with your gut. i keep hearing similar hormonal issue stories from people on GAPS. there’s no science to prove that *your* specific body can only heal by avoiding starches. only you can figure that out. if you don’t tolerate grains, what about other heavy starches like potatoes? i’ve known about my blood sugar issues for many years and on several occasions i’ve had to adjust my eating habits due to severe stress and in the process have figured out what works the best for me. if a protocol is causing damage to your hormonal system, it’s the wrong protocol. you should not have to suffer in order to heal.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:07 PM

@Josefina

No my adrenals were in the toilet when I started on the gluten-free starch-free sugar-free diet (it wasn’t GAPS but close). After 2 years, my adrenals were healthy.

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Donielle @ Naturally Knocked Up January 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM

You can “overeat” on GAPs. :-) When I published Matt’s guest post on my blog, Kat from scdkat.com commented and said that she’d successfully been able to raise her BBT even without grains.

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Amanda T January 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Did she do this in a specific way, or did she just mean she ate more?

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Melissa @ Unmistakablyfood January 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Oh wow I am so sorry. My computer is really acting up today. I would delete the extras if I could!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I did — no worries!

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Kendahl @ Our Nourishing Roots January 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM

I love Matt Stone! I’ve been RRARFing for about 3 weeks and my temps went from 97.5′s all the way to 98.6 (or even 99.2 when I was in my luteal phase one morning). I’ve been adding in buckwheat and quinoa and potatoes for transitioning out of GAPS and back into grains, and the RRARFing was perfect timing for me to read about. I’ve been amazed!

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Laura N. January 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Me too! I’m so excited to have my first luteal phase temp over 98, when it used to be 96 something even just a couple months ago. This is amazing! I’ve been eating more (still mostly grain-free, but afraid to be totally on GAPS because I want to be nourished for TTC in a couple of months), and even though I eat so much more, I’m not getting fat. The only thing I still need to work on is getting to bed earlier, but I’m still getting a good 8 hours most nights; the kids have been waking up later in the mornings, so that helps and also gives me an excuse to stay up too late, LOL.

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Laura N. January 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Oops, was talking about my BBT being over 98 for the first time. I have not started temping later in the day and averaging yet. I’m hoping those temps will be even higher than the BBT. :-)

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allison January 27, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I don’t really follow Matt – but all of the “science” seems accurate. When I was on BC it really made my hormones go crazy, my temps were always lower than normal 97.8 and eventually when I quit – within 2 weeks I felt like a million bucks and my temp was perfect 98.6. I used to be REALLY thin – but this is before I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease.
When I first met AnnMarie – I was nursing a 6 month old and had about 20 lbs to lose from my pregnancy. Before I got pregnant with my first I clocked in at 125 and 5’9″ (in college I was 5’9″ and 114 lbs – I was a vegetarian!).
I’ve always been a proponent of eating frequently and keeping up with exercise. Low carb diets make me crazy, but high grain diets do too. My perfect balance seems to be consuming fruits, veg, fish, properly prepared small amounts of non-gluten containing grains and cultured dairy – this is the very best me with regular exercise.
Every body is different. I wish AnnMarie good luck with Matts plan and hope that it helps! eat up!

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Donielle @ Naturally Knocked Up January 27, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Oh my goodness – I was NOT expecting Matt Stone haters when I had him guest post on my blog about raising BBTs. Silly people.

I had my BBTs (I only temp in the AM – always forget during the day!) up to 97.4 in the morning and 98.2 during the day for a few weeks. Since then they’ve dropped just a bit and I realized how I haven’t been eating enough again. I just get busy getting the kids food and cleaning the kitchen while they’re out from under my feet and end up snacking my lunch. And I forget how much more food I need to buy. :-) I need to eat more!!

I also have a friend that’s doing this too and she’s seen AWESOME results as well. Her temp is up a couple degrees in about a month!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:19 PM

It’s kind of fun, isn’t it?

I mean, before I always felt like I wasn’t ALLOWED to eat more. That if I ate more, I’d get fat. I was always trying to ignore my hunger and just push on through. And I felt proud if I wasn’t hungry and didn’t eat all day.

Now I enjoy the fact that I GET to eat 3 times or more per day. It’s so much fun!

But I know what you mean — old habits die hard. I get busy working and I forget, too. So a lot of times I just make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or a cheese sandwich or I eat yogurt.

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Matt Stone January 28, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Really eating a lot is very important to stress with those who are eating a whole foods diet as well. And that’s how RRARF came about, as you kind of have to force feed yourself a bit if you want to raise body temperature on a whole foods diet. That’s why I see so many people get themselves into trouble on health food diets of all kinds. They simply don’t get the calories in. We naturally eat less of whole foods than refined foods. Yet another reason why I sometimes recommend people who are in really bad shape to go and eat more refined foods, and very calorie dense versions at that – stuff like pizza and ice cream. In a certain context, there’s nothing more powerfully therapeutic.

It’s unfortunate that others have too many fears about certain foods in particular to recognize this, but people just aren’t looking at how food interacts with the human body correctly. They file things into black and white categories of “good for you and bad for you,” and that is overly simplistic. Even something as simple as water is good in some circumstances and terrible in others. Flexibility is key. But haters hate flexibility too.

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Dora January 27, 2012 at 3:42 PM

You can check your bloodsugar with a glucometer too. You can get a free one if you google it.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Right, but it’s not the same thing. The refractometer is supposed to work much better

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caroline January 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM

if i was to get one of Matt Stones books which one should i get? i have hypothyroid, low adrenals and poor health… are they all e-books? thanks

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:20 PM

I’m not sure — you should go comment on his blog and ask him!

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Josefina January 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM

maybe i missed it, but i can’t seem to find any explanation of why consuming foods with high water content causes greater blood sugar crashes. for many years, i’ve instinctively avoided such foods and even drinking water with my meals. i have to pace my water intake throughout the day. drink too much at once and i get all spaced out.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM

You’d have to ask him. He didn’t go into detail in that blog post

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Kendahl @ Our Nourishing Roots January 27, 2012 at 11:04 PM

It’s essentially because the balance of your body’s chemistry at the cellular level is water, salt, and sugar. If you chug water and liquids all day, especially in the morning, then that simple act can throw them out of balance and cause a sugar crash.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Wow, well said, Kendahl. Dang you’re a good writer. Making hard stuff easy to understand.

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Lori January 28, 2012 at 5:41 AM

@Kendahl
That’s interesting because I love drinking tea in the morning or hot broth. A lot of cultures actually drink soups in the morning–I had some Cambodian kids once in my class and that’s what they ate, but maybe they are adding back in salt. Of course, when I drink broth, I add in a lot of sea salt and dill! The dill just tastes good. The teas I’m drinking are Nettle infusions or red clover infusions, so they have other nutrients in them. What do you think about that?

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Josefina January 28, 2012 at 7:10 AM

thanks! it makes total sense, this is how i would feel when drinking quantities– ‘diluted’.

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Matt Stone January 28, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Yes, listen to Kendahl. And your body. It’s not your “blood sugar” crashing when you feel spaced out after chugging water. It’s more like the cellular concentrations of salt and sugar become diluted. The weaker one gets, the more sensitive they become to taking excess fluids. Likewise, the lower the metabolic rate, the harder it is to hold on to salt and sugar at the cellular level.

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deb January 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM

You know I am a Stone Lover AM! I am so glad to hear you are getting ‘hotter’ all the time that is excellent. The main thing I have learned from Matt is not be afraid of my food.
It’s sounds simple, but in this foodie/WAP/ Paleo ??? what’s next world, getting spooked by food is pretty common.
Can’t wait to see you and thanks for speaking at the Healthy Eating Pavillion at Fit Expo!
xoxo
deb

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Can’t wait to see you and give you a great big HUG

Yes I am working on my presentation RIGHT NOW

:-)

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Becky McBride January 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I haven’t been over to Matt’s too much, so I’m not sure if he explains it there, but why a refractometer instead of traditional glucometer to measure blood sugar? I’m guessing its measuring a ratio instead of a simple level in mg/dL like a traditional blood sugar monitor would (like between 70 to 110 mg/dL, etc)?

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM

I’ll ask him at dinner. The glucometer is not supposed to be very accurate.

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Matt Stone January 28, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Glucose meters and refractometers are not measuring the same thing. Both are important tools though. I’m a fan of collecting data from both. The refractometer readings coincide much better with symptoms like anxiety, irritability, blurred vision, lethargy, cold hands and feet, seizure, migraine, etc. I don’t think sugar levels in the blood have all that much to do with what’s going on at the cellular level. In fact, because the adrenals typically become hyperactive and are the cause of much of the symptoms attributed to “hypoglycemia,” you often see high levels of sugar in the blood when these symptoms surface.

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Christy, The Simple Homemaker January 27, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I don’t know Matt Stone, but I am intrigued by this article. After hearing that grains are from The Dark Side, it’s interesting to hear this take on it.

We live an hour from you. May we borrow your nanny? ;) She’s right about US bread. That’s why we only bake our own. Even my 5yo kneads bread!

Thanks for sharing!!!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM

No you can’t borrow my nanny. She is the best nanny in the world and I cannot live without her! Not even for one day!

But maybe we could do a playdate one day!

You have to learn my “no knead” sourdough method — sooo easy and no kneading necessary.

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Rachael January 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Which of Matt Stone’s books is the best to start with, particularly as it relates to RRARF?

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Kendahl @ Our Nourishing Roots January 27, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I would get Diet Recovery. I just bought it for $20 and it was totally worth it.

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Rachael January 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Thanks!

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April January 27, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Very interesting!! Good stuff to think about.

From my own experience, I also wonder if the liquid issue is additionally related to salinity disruption, which can be a BIG problem for those with low adrenal function. People with low adrenals usually have chronically salt-depleted cells, which leads to cyclic dehydration, which is actually aggravated by adding liquids, because the body has to pull even more salt out of the cells after the liquid hits the bloodstream. The liquid dilutes the salinity of the bloodstream, and the body can’t allow that. It pulls salt out of the cells to balance the blood, and bam, headaches and energy crashes related to dehydration.

When my adrenals are tired, I have to take salt pills with my liquids or else my whole body goes out of whack.

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Erin (Pretty In Primal) January 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM

I agree. People with adrenal fatigue need LOTS of salt! Low aldsterone= low blood sodium. Drinking water further dilutes blood sodium. This doesn’t mean we should restrict water to the bare minimum. All you have to do is generously salt your water with unrefined salt (I like real salt) and you’ll see a huge difference in cellular hydration, muscle function, heat tolerance, and a reversal in low blood pressure (you also won’t have to pee 15 min. after drinking water, lol!).

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Simone January 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I’ve been adding about 1tsp of Himalayan pink salt to ALL my drinking water for a little while after being diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and PCOS. WOW!!! What a difference it makes!!! It’s the only water that tastes good to me now, water without salt just makes me nauseous.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Wow cool I need to remember to add more salt to my water

But I think potato chips would also work… the healthy olive oil kind of course

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Kaymer February 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

But if your adrenals are now healed, why would you add salt to your water? I thought that was just for folks with low adrenal function. Not trying to be judgemental, just confused.

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Soli @ I Believe in Butter January 27, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I don’t read Matt’s blog, but I find it interesting that even my standard body temperature when I was younger (97.8F) is in his range. Can’t say much else without knowing his whole range in this theory, but I find it interesting to consider.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM

97.8 is good for BBT which is your temp when you first wake up.

During the day you should be around 98.6

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Heather January 27, 2012 at 4:36 PM

I’ve looked at Matt Stone’s site every so often. I’m neutral on him, really.

But being hypothyroid means I have low body temps. I’ve been taking kelp to help with this, and when I was trying to get pregnant, I also took vitex (chasteberry). Both helped to raise my BBT to normal levels. So I’m back on the kelp supplements and they seem to be working just fine.

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Dana January 27, 2012 at 5:24 PM

I don’t care if someone’s “in your face”, and I feel like if they are going to be of a scientific bent then there’s a certain amount of bouncing back and forth between ideas that you are *not* going to be doing since most of the evidence should be taking you in a certain direction. For instance, you won’t find someone “of a scientific bent” not able to make up their mind whether the earth is round or flat! Similarly, while there’s fairly wide variation in human biology, that biology still follows certain trends. You are not going to find humans who thrive on being pure herbivores while other humans thrive on being pure carnivores. Period. Though you *will* find people who do better with a bit more plant food or better with a bit more meat. (And you *can* thrive on an all-meat diet, though you must do it right, and it helps if you’re healthy at baseline when you start–for instance, if you don’t make enough stomach acid, that meat’s just going to sit in your stomach and bug you a lot before you finally break it down!)

What bugs me about Stone isn’t that he’s scientific but that he waffles. One month Paleo is OK, the next it’s poison; one month low-carb’s where it’s at and the next it’s killing your thyroid. (That would be news to lots of my blog readers who have seen their thyroids *improve* on LC.)

I have a new name for people who defend the birdseed we have all been eating for only ten thousand years now: Sugar junkies.

Like it or not, that’s just what you are. All carbohydrates are sugars. The only difference between them where we are concerned is how well we break them down. And bread is just one big huge hunk o’ sugar, of many different types. When you *cannot* give it up, that would indicate addiction to me. Not a good sign, not indicative of good health and probably not going to *encourage* the good health either. (Remember, the traditional group Price studied that had the most cavities was the bread-eating Swiss!)

Believe me, I sympathize. I love grains, but they hate me. And why do you think people’s guts get messed up to begin with? Grain’s a seed food. Seeds don’t like to be ground up and eaten. They cannot do their job of perpetuating the species in that case–and they will defend themselves chemically, since there is no plant equivalent to the mother bear that mauls you if you mess with her cubs.

People stop eating grains for very good reasons, this and others. Lierre Keith’s critique of the vegetarian and especially vegan lifestyle is instructive here, if you replace “veg*nism” with “grain-eating.” Same drawbacks, whether or not you are also eating meat.

Stone’s list of low-fluid breakfast foods includes eggs. I think I’ll stick with those. I can also make Paleo pancakes if I really want something breadlike. They’re still low-fluid, and I won’t spend the rest of my day feeling out of sorts because my intestines are angry with me. All I’m saying.

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Coral January 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I’m sorry but I don’t think your information on the Swiss is quite accurate. If this were true then why did Dr. Price RECOMMEND freshly milled grains to his family as stated in his letter to them and why did he give the children whom he halted cavities in grains and juice as part of their nourishing meal? I am reading his book right now so I have not quite finished it. Is there perhaps a chart somewhere that compares all the groups as I do not remember the Swiss having anymore cavities than any other group he studied? I do believe the people who had the significant increase in cavities and degeneration were those who added in processed white food products.

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cheeseslave January 28, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Here is a quote from the book:

“In a study of 4,280 teeth of the children of these high valleys, only 3.4 per cent were found to have been attacked by tooth decay. This is in striking contrast to conditions found in the modernized sections using the modern foods.”

Compare that to the New Zealand Maori: “In the most isolated group only 2 per cent of the teeth had been attacked by dental caries.”

The Maori were hunters-gatherers and ate mainly seafood. They ate birds and fish and root crops of potato and sweet potato. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not believe they ate grains, and certainly not wheat like the Swiss.

Are we really going to quibble over 1.4%?

Also, compare these numbers to the 42% of modern children in America with cavities. And these children may have multiple cavities so that number is likely higher. Price was only counting the TOTAL number of cavities among all the teeth.

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Sandy (NZ) February 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

You are quite correct, Ann Marie, the Maori didn’t have any grain plants until the Europeans brought down wheat (and I assume rye and barley) in the 19th century. Interestingly, the Maori have their own type of fermented bread, rewena, which is made from developing a fermented bug from potato (and was often cooked underground in an earth oven called a hangi – yum!). But if NZ had never been colonised, the diet would still be pretty paleo!

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laura h January 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Who’s matt stone!

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Heather :) :) :) January 27, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Hmm…well, I have NEVER heard of Matt Stone in my life…so I read this post with open ears/mind/heart. I’m really interested in what he says and your thoughts on his post. I find it all very, very interesting ;) :) :) THanks for sharing this today :) :) Love and hugs from the ocean shores of California, Heather :)

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Ellen January 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I really liked the idea of RRARFing and have been following Matt’s blog for almost a year. However, I tried RRARFing for 2 months and gained 20 unwelcome pounds that I cannot get off (even going through GAPS intro!) Now what?!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:28 PM

What is your temperature during the day? Or BBT?

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Simone January 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Interesting. I like Matt Stone and I’m in a similar situation to you, and I had never thought about high water foods being bad for my blood sugar issues. Very interesting indeed. Funny how I can’t eat cereal with milk during the day, but if I eat it right before bed I’m just fine. Wonder if this is the reason why.

Dr. Broda Barnes mentioned something in “Hypothyroidism” that higher-carb meals will cause your body temperature to go up as much as one whole degree temporarily. I guess if you have grains throughout the day it may lengthen this effect.

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:53 PM

So weird, isn’t it? All these people pushing low-carb when in Barnes tell us that high carb will bring up our body temp (I haven’t read that book yet but it’s on my list for this year)

It just seems so logical to me that if we can get our body temperature up and our thyroid working properly, the metabolism will work better and we will naturally lose weight

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Matt Stone January 28, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Yes, that is definitely the reason why! Sugar levels are higher in the evening for most people, and higher water content foods are probably better at that time for a lot of people.

And carbs are the most important single substance for raising body temperature. No doubt about that. But often people take it to extremes of fat restriction or vegetarianism and end up not taking in enough calories, and having body temperature and health plummet.

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Hannah January 27, 2012 at 6:38 PM

For taking temps are you using a regular store bought thermometer?

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM

I am using this one that Matt recommend:

Vicks SpeedRead Digital Thermometer (Oral, Rectal, Under Arm)

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jeanmarie January 27, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I just looked at it and I notice it only got 2 stars…

I love reading about your journey, AnnMarie! I always learn a lot from you, even when you discuss something I’ve known about for years, you always have some nuance that’s new and helpful. Thanks!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Amazon reviews aren’t everything! This is the only thermometer I use. They’re not all the same and most are crap. This one works.

Thank you for your sweet comment, Jeanmarie. The feeling is mutual! I’m still grateful for you every night when I listen to the Peace Revolution podcast!

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Kendahl @ Our Nourishing Roots January 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Funny, this is the thermometer that I bought at the store. It must have been meant to be…. :D

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Gabi February 3, 2012 at 11:14 PM

This is the thermometer I keep in my midwife bag and I have compared it with four others and find it to be nicely accurate and quick. My only beef is that i can’t read the temp in the dark! :)

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Rebecca January 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM

This post is SO awesome! I love all of this info — probably because I have some similar issues that you seem to be dealing with as well. I love that you give me new good ideas, and you often re-affirm things that I, too have recently started doing to feel more great. Thank you for your posts : )

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Hi, Rebecca! Thank you!

I started this blog 4 years ago because I felt all alone and didn’t have anyone to talk to about my love of food and kooky nutrition obsession.

I’m so glad there are people like you who are on board with me!

Hugs1

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Nicole January 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Soooooo, I am TOTALLY CONFUSED. Some people here seem to be saying that gaps will damage your thyroid and adrenals!!! But Anne-marie, you said you healed your gut on gaps or similar and then healed your thyroid/adrenals, but you don’t think you damaged them on the gaps-type diet, right?? I am on gaps and have been on and off for a long time.

Also, re; temps. So, low temps indicate the thyroid is not working properly??? I never knew this and need to learn about this. So if you are able to raise your temp you will feel better and your hormones will level out???? I need someone to put all this forward to me in very basic terms!! I think I am on info overload and am freakin’ just a little that people are suggesting that gaps may be bad for you in some way………

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Yes I healed my gut and my adrenals on a diet very similar to GAPS.

Yes, low temps mean hypothyroid.

I don’t think GAPS is bad. It’s an incredibly healing diet. But I don’t think you need to stay on it forever, either. That’s why I called my cooking class REVERSING Food Allergies. I think food allergies are reversible. I think you can heal and then you can eat a more balanced diet including all forms of dairy and whole grains, properly prepared.

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Kitsa February 3, 2012 at 10:52 PM

That’s right – Dr McBride has a chapter in the GAPS book called “Coming off the GAPS Diet”. She advocates that you need to follow GAPS strictly for at least 2 years which is obviously dependent on the severity of the condition you are treating until the gut is healed. Once you’ve had at least 6 months of normal digestion then you can start introducing foods outside of GAPS.
New potatoes are the first to be introduced followed by fermented gluten free grains like buckwheat, millet & quinoa. Sourdough made with wheat or rye is next and then starchy vegetables, grains and beans. So in effect she is saying you transition to a WAPF like diet and just avoid processed foods and refined sugars.Hope this makes it a bit clearer for all the GAPSters – you have Dr McBrides blessing to move on once healed – GAPS doesn’t have to be forever!

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April January 28, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Low temps don’t always mean hypothyroid. They can also mean low-functioning adrenals. The two are connected, but the low temps present very differently when the main issue is adrenal. Adrenal temps will widely fluctuate, with some very low temps one part of the day and normal to near-normal temps other parts of the day. Thyroid temps will be consistently low.

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Cynthia January 29, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Interesting! I have started taking my morning temps and they fluctuate wildly.
96.8
96.4
95.5
97.0
95.3
97.5
97.2
97.1
Aren’t these soo crazee?

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Morgan @ The Remade Momma January 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Color me confused, but that’s okay! I have finally gotten the hubs to start taking his health more seriously. He’s recently gotten into climbing and he’s such a big guy that the highest rated ropes will only hold him in a fall of 10 feet {like we could count on that-you can jump 10 feet for crying out loud} & he’s had several friends his age die suddenly of heart attacks. He has a history of past drug use which worries him {righty so}, a history of heart attacks and strokes in his family, acid reflux treated with yucky Prilosec and major bowel issues. Now that he’s ready to make some changes, I don’t know what to do! Yes grain, no grain? GAPS, no GAPS? Please, please, please, point me in some sort of direction here. Any advice is welcome & feel free to email me. Heart health is of the utmost concern at the moment.
:)
Thanks gang!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Not everyone can commit to GAPS so if it’s too much for him, then at the very least start giving him kefir smoothies on a daily basis. My father-in-law healed his GERD (which he had for decades and he lived on Prilosec) in a matter of months with daily kefir smoothies. (Kefr, coconut oil, honey and fruit, and maybe they added egg yolks — I’m not sure).

In addition I’d personally make sure he is taking a good therapeutic-grade probiotic. Look here: http://villagegreennetwork.com/marketplace/supplements-superfoods?pid=1” target=”_blank”

For heart health, I’d also get him to use magnesium oil or magnesium flakes. Read The Magnesium OIl Miracle. Also vitamin K2 — lots of grass-fed butter, cream and fermented cod liver oil/butter oil blend.

If he will do GAPS it certainly will not hurt him and he will heal that much faster. I truly believe that the intro diet for 4 weeks is very healing for many people. People with hidden food allergies will never get better until they heal their gut.

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April January 28, 2012 at 1:44 AM

As an aside from the diet issues, I’d look into nattokinase as a food-based supplement that is amazing for heart health and preventing heart attack and stroke. It comes in pills; it’s not actual natto, but an enzyme found in natto.

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Lori January 27, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Okay, I’m totally confused too. I’ve been batteling Candida, so no grains, starches, etc. So what to do….have Candida and eat bread and get my temps up? Skip the grains, etc but have low temps. But then my temps aren’t that low although they aren’t that high. They got higher the month I took progesterone. And when I do eat grains, I gain weight which I really don’t need to do which I think is a huge problem because even right now I’m considered obese and feel like crap–I’ve gained about 10 pounds and have no idea why (I weigh about 180 which is too heavey and makes my feel yucky). This is all so very, very confusing!

Gaps? Grains? Candida diet? What to do?????

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Kendahl @ Our Nourishing Roots January 27, 2012 at 11:10 PM

I totally understand where you’re coming from. I would say to ask Matt himself. I’m sure he gets that question all the time. I hope he’ll answer it here, because I’m in the same boat! I’m transitioning out of GAPS though, so I have it a little easier. Hang in there!

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cheeseslave January 27, 2012 at 11:41 PM

If you still have food allergies and signs of candida, I’d avoid starches and sugar until you heal your gut and get the good bacteria back in charge.

I ate honey, fruit, and non-gluten grains when I was healing from my gut issues. I may have healed faster if I had avoided all grains but I didn’t know about GAPS back then (it did not exist).

Are you taking a therapeutic grade probiotic?

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Lori January 28, 2012 at 5:34 AM

That makes sense. I had been taking bioKult, but I work with someone and he believes that you heal and then take probiotics. He has reasons that I don’t completely understand.

I was doing a Candida diet last year and did great on it with still eating some fruit and potatoes all of the time. Then I started eating junk and my Candida got unbalanced again. This time, I’m not even eating the potatoes and the funny thing is that even though I had gained weight, I’m not losing it. VERY FRUSTRATING! It’s like my body is really out of balance or I’m allergic to something that I’m eating. Who knows!!!!

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cheeseslave January 28, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I don’t see how you can heal the gut without probiotics and/or fermented foods

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Lori January 28, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Anne Marie,
I don’t quite understand myself. He gives probiotics later. But, I’m at that point where I’m thinking I need to listen to my intuition and just start taking them.

BTW, how did you know you were healed?

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cheeseslave January 29, 2012 at 7:40 AM

When all my symptoms were gone even when I ate gluten or sugar. Most of my symptoms went away early in the diet but they would come back if I ate gluten or sugar. When I could eat those things again and not react, I considered myself healed.

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Ali April 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

There’s a lot of hype around ‘probiotics’ at present, but I am not sure that the real benefits come from the actual microbes themselves, but what they do to the food. As they release up to 50% more nutrition from wheat during a slow fermentation period, they probably play a similar role in other foods too.

Our ancestors knew what to do to make their food more nutritious, whereas our generation is hell-bent on minimizing the nutritional content through processing and making food as ‘empty’ as possible….

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Louisa January 27, 2012 at 11:37 PM

such an interesting post, Anne Marie, I have read matt’s blog for a while now, although I do not agree with EVERYthing he writes, boy, some of it really interesting….

thanks for sharing.

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Lee Deavers January 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I really appreciate your objectivity!!
Thankks

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Meagan January 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Hmmm, very interesting. I just started the GAPS diet five days ago, so I’m drinking more fluids and broth than I normally do and obviously no starches/grains. Although I did continue with butter and cheese for more calories, since I’m breastfeeding.

Now that I think of it every afternoon I get extremely hot. To the point I have to open all the doors, turn off the heat, take off most of my clothes and sometimes even stand outside for 5 minutes. I have even gotten a little nauseous. What does that mean?! Is this my hormones telling me something?!

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Sanja January 28, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I also find many things that Matt says interesting. I bought his ebooks and there he advises people to eat high quality foods but then he and his followers eat junk food like sugar and pizza and ice-cream all the time. If he said homemade sourdough pizza and homemade ice-cream, that would make sense to me, even to eat only that all the time. But to recommend eating store-bought ice-cream with tons of artificial sugars, preservatives, and even anti-freeze( Sarah from Healthyhomeeconomist wrote about that) that just very irresponsible.
And also his writings are very chaotic and he is always gaining and losing weight and recovering from some serious symptoms so I don’t know how seriously to take what he is saying. Although I also had bad experience with eating gaps and I do much better on Wapf diet. Recently I started NAET treatments and even though I didn’t have any visible allergies, I found out that I was allergic to eggs( which I ate every day), to vitamin C, to dairy…..Maybe that’s why some people respond well to gaps, some to paleo, some to raw, some to macrobiotics, some to vegetarian…..Maybe they just accidentaly stopped eating what they are allergic to. Just thinking aloud.
(Sorry for my english, I’m from Croatia)

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Kelsey February 3, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Actually if you read closely, he says he actually DOESN’T eat much ice cream at all. And he probably doesn’t eat much other junk, either, honestly. What he’s trying to do is get rid of people’s phobias of different foods. Stressing over every single thing you eat could be just as harmful as just eating junk food. Stress is HUGE when it comes to overall health. So yes, to some people he does just say loosen up and eat some junk food! But if you’ve read his e-books (which it sounds like you have), he does advocate eating very wholesome, clean foods on a regular basis, and if you splurge every once in a while and eat some junk, don’t get all freaked out and think the world is over!!

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Matt Stone January 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Just to clarify, fluids do not lower “blood sugar.” And when people feel symptoms of what they think is “hypoglycemia” it usually does not correspond with the amount of glucose in the blood – which is often elevated when one experiences those symptoms (anxiety, lethargy, dizziness, blurred vision, migraine, seizure, etc.)

Rather, fluids dilute the sugar and salt at the cellular level, and when these concentrations become too low is when most people experience these “hypoglycemia” and “hyponatremia” type of symptoms. And this shows up in the urine, with corresponding cold hands and feet, typically.

For those that tend to feel cold around 10am, and urinate very clear or very frequently… experiment with eating a dry breakfast vs. a breakfast with high water content and a lot of beverages. It makes a big difference.

I find 10am to be the most common time of day for a person to have their first “crash.” 3pm is the next more common time. After that most people see a rise and feel much better in the afternoon and evening in terms of mood and energy levels.

Having to wake up in the 2-4am window and pee, with trouble getting back to sleep is a more advanced version I would say, but easily correctable.

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cheeseslave January 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM

How do you correct the 2-4 am waking?

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Lori January 28, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Yes, I want to know too because I always wake up at that time and have to pee!

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Susan January 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

AM- can you ask Matt specifically about this question? I know so many people who have to get up at night to pee and then can’t get back to sleep. How does he correct it? Thanks!

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cheeseslave January 31, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I did ask him and he told me to drink coconut water or milk or something else sweet before bed INSTEAD of water.

It worked! For the past 2 nights I did what he told me to and I did not wake up at pee at 3 am.

I posted about it here: https://www.facebook.com/cheeseslave/posts/10150517857696304

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Susan January 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Yours and Matt’s are my favorite health related blogs to read. There’s so much conflicting info out there and I know that what works for one person might not work for another. I’m not a person that will just accept things without investigating them, so that’s probably why I like both of your blogs so much.

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Norma January 28, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I am glad to read a post on low blood sugar. My body is greatly affected when eating carbs, blood sugar crashes and then hungry, tired… I sure you know the drill. I hope you post more as you learn more about blood sugar. I too am healing from adrenal fatigue, have developed insulin resistance, hormones are out of wack, plus candida overgrowth….. ick!! (although I do notice the better I eat– broth, kefir, kombucha, raw milk, sour dough breads, etc) the better I am feeling.
I also did a ZYTO test, (from Young Living) and have been using a few essential oils, plus Sulfurzyme and the Xingia juice…….it’s a long “row to hoe” but I do feel I am making progress.
Keep the wonderful information coming and thank you for all of your hard work. I really appreciate learning from you.

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KBcooks January 28, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Yes, RRARF worked for me. I have to thank Donielle for leading me to Matt. But Matt led me to Ray Peat, whom I believe, is more seasoned, if that’s what attracts you. Gained weight, (115 to 123) but am only just feeling snug in Size 4′s. Incredible.

Matt, if you’re still reading, which one of RP’s everyday guidelines do you still follow? Are you taking FCLO?

Anne Marie, I’m in academia, and the supposed ‘legitimacy’ of science today, particularly in food where its social complexity is completely disregarded and language is completely biased, is strictly a social perception. The more you have people from all over wrting in about a common ‘observation,’ the closer you (or Matt) are of honing in to an actual ‘truth’ than any controlled lab will every be. Not only is this manner more functional, but its definitely more legitimate, in the true sense of the word. (Central Limit Theorem proves this.) So you are a scientist, a true one. Don’t back down.

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Katie January 28, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Question about nuts and seeds: You say above that nuts and seeds are what damage the gut and I’m confused by this. Is it just improperly prepared nuts and seeds? I know the GAPS diet utilizes nuts and nut flours. I’m trying to heal some food allergies and cannot eat gluten right now, but some nuts were okay on my allergy test. Now, I’m wondering if they are worth eating. (I only have a few each day and they are always properly soaked and dehydrated.) Thanks.

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cheeseslave January 29, 2012 at 7:41 AM

Improperly prepared nuts and seeds. But they are nowhere near as damaging as antibiotics and chlorine.

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Joe January 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

The way the GAPS diet is set up usually leads to low carb torture. I would suggest experimenting with radically different macronutrient ratios while on the GAPS diet. By this, I mean, see if you feel better doing a high carb GAPS where you are drinking a lot of fruit juice, eating fruits, and so on. In other words, try a high simple sugar diet; it’s technically GAPS compliant and may work better for you. There are a lot of theories about thyroid help and what’s pro-thyroid. What I’m saying is largely influenced by the ideas of Ray Peat and if you’re curious about this line of thought, you should look at the breakdown done by the dannyroddy blog. For healing, it’s very debatable whether high saturated fat or high simple sugars is better. Many believe that fat takes a lot of work to process especially for those with thyroid issues and that simple sugars is thus preferable. In any case, good luck figuring things out for yourself!

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Joe January 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I meant this as a reply above to Nicole but can’t seem to adjust it. Oh, well.

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Crystal January 29, 2012 at 9:02 AM

I am such a creature of habit, but I am also very in tune with my body. And my body thrives on a grain-based breakfast first thing in the morning, and a grain-based bedtime snack, sometimes not even very much before I’m actually in bed to sleep. My weight is perfect for my body. So consuming grains works for me. I’m also a grazer. All throughout the day I am snacking on this and that.

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Biz January 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I believe a big part of any nutritional healing program is you.
And by that, I mean you listening to your body. When I first discovered that my adrenals needed help, it was the extreme protests of my body that alerted me that something was way wrong. Coming up on about a year since, I’ve found that my diet and tastes are constantly changing, what I’m attracted to eat, things I once loved – not so much anymore, and also how much I’m discovering new foods/preparations along the way and incorporating them into my program. I’ve never been as adventurous in eating as I am now. Like Matt, I’ve found that I do need some grains and the best time seems to be earlier in the day rather than later. But I wouldn’t have known that if I hadn’t tried to eliminate them. So I agree, the test and see what works for you has been a solid approach for me. There have been missteps, yes and not feeling so great afterwards, but I keep moving forward and seeing what works and makes me feel great. I sense that it means I’m more present in what I eat and how it affects me – and I think that was a lesson I fundamentally needed to learn.

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Lore February 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The voice of reason and experience…thanks.

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Dr. Kate Hazlitt ND January 29, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I feel that gluten should be on the list of things that do damage the gut. Someone with celiac disease knows this first hand. The gliadin protein in gluten wipes out their intestinal villi – the little hairs that allow food to be absorbed, and for good bacteria to stick to – creates inflammation and damage to the lining of the gut. So gluten should be first on the list of ‘avoids’ for anyone trying to heal their gut, regardless if you have celiac disease. I will also point out that wheat of today is a far cry from wheat of 100 years ago. Modern wheat crops are now hybridized to contain more gluten, which is a a real problem. Soaking/fermenting the grains will make the starches easier to digest and therefore probably won’t affect blood glucose in the same way as non fermented wheat/grain. I am interested to see what happens with the blood glucose monitoring between a piece of regular bread vs a piece of sourdough bread. A low BBT by itself does not equal hypothyroid. The whole person should be considered – fatigue, dry skin, hair and nails, difficulty losing weight, cold all the time. And as a reader pointed out the adrenals cannot be forgotten – they work together. Keep up the good work Ann Marie!

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cheeseslave January 31, 2012 at 4:21 PM

I agree that gluten should be absolutely avoided if you are trying to heal your gut.

However I do not believe that gluten from properly prepared grains damages the gut.

And even if modern grains contain more gluten, there is no evidence that that actually damages the gut.

I used to be gluten-intolerant but I believe it was largely caused by antibiotics and unsoaked grains. I stayed off gluten, took probiotics for 2 years, and my gut was healed. I’ve been able to eat gluten for over 10 years now with no problems.

And I agree adrenals and thyroid work together — both have to be addressed.

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Bobby Khan January 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM

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Kaylin January 30, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Two pieces of advice about taking temps: use a mechanical thermometer, not digital. And use an axillary temp reading. I thought I had low temps and tried all kinds of things to raise them (including Matt’s RRARFing–be careful if you’re clinically hypothyroid, and don’t do it for a long period of time. I gained 40 lb. in three months and it took me a year to take it off. I also had insulin issues too.) Anyway, the next morning I took my basal temp with a mercury thermometer under my arm and… TA DA! My temp was normal, even on the high side! I also took my temp orally to compare and it was my typical low. It turns out it was just my mouth that was (is) cold, and my digital thermometer was inconsistent. My basal body temp is fine!

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Kelsey February 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I don’t believe Matt ever advocates RRAFRing for more than 30 days. I could be wrong, but I’ve never seen that anywhere. Also, he does say that if you’re taking your temp orally, it’s going to be about half a degree (I believe) lower than if you do an axillary reading, so to keep that in mind. And yes, some digital thermometers are worse than others, so you need to be careful about what kind you use.

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Kristen February 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

You give your body time to heal and seal the gut. When you think you’re ready, hallenge (reintroduce) the removed “allergen”. Wait three days for each food and only reintroduce one suspect food at a time. It’s essentially a long term elimination diet and you are your best source of knowledge whether a certain food works well for you or not!

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Gabi February 3, 2012 at 11:07 PM

That’s all really interesting, AnnMarie, as are all the comments and questions the post triggered. I had some thoughts and questions, too.

There seems to be some confusion around what you are sharing here and the GAPS protocol. I believe GAPS is really a crucial healing protocol for the majority of Americans who suffer from gut dysbiosis…and honestly, who among us doesn’t to some degree nowadays? I think the beauty of GAPS is the healing of the gut lining, the detoxifying of the body, and the repopulating of our needed beneficial flora. We all have varying degrees of dysfunction we need to heal. Once healed, our guts should be able to handle all forms of real foods…properly prepared, of course.
I love how GAPS emphasizes saturated fats, which I believe are the first, most crucial nutrient to human health and development. The vegan diet will destroy hormones…it did mine…and fats will heal hormones…cholesterol is the mother hormone that we need to create all other hormones. So I think a real food diet needs to include lots of good fats…I think that’s one reason GAPS is so healing to people in our society…the bane of low-fat living has destroyed our health!
People detoxify and heal at different rates, so the response to GAPS will vary. But GAPS is supposed to heal us in total by healing our guts, and is supposed to positively affect our hormones. I have read that the GAPS protocol should address underlying hormonal imbalances.
Water and salt are crucial elements to our cellular health, and I think the important emphasis should be to remind people that we must have minerals with our water…we really need to be adding a real salt source to our water so we don’t “flush” ourselves too much…but we really do need to drink enough water daily to replenish our cells and to detoxify…especially while on a healing/detoxifying protocol like GAPS. So many people are chronically dehydrated, which causes its own set of ills. Homemade electrolyte drinks with salt, honey, ACV and lemon can be really helpful.

So, I’m wondering AnnMarie, what you think of the impact of GAPS on hormones, and also your opinion on the role of pure water (balanced with minerals) in our daily health.

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shuhan February 5, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I love matt stone and his attitude towards food too. Some of the ideas scare me, but I believe he’s onto something, and he also has helped to change my mind about fear of carbs and grains etc.

He advocates processed, easily digestible carbs though. Not really whole grain, soaked, sourdough etc., and believes that they’re not really that essential. what do you think about that?

I’ve been looking a lot at alternative theories and trying not to get too caught up and obsessed with all these whole grains and sally fallon dogma. I look at my ancestry and realise that they’ve always much enjoyed white rice over brown, there’s a reason why our body seeks our food that tastes better and is easier to absorb.

and I started to look at foods also, not in terms of their macronutrients, but their energy, and I know you said you love science so this might not be your thing, but I think food is so much more than just ratios and numbers. anyway according to traditional chinese medicine and ayurveda, white rice is very neutral and healing for the body, whereas brown rice is nourishing but warming and drying at the same time, so not suited for frequent consumption. I think it’s that, the idea of balance, that really allows us to absorb all we can from our food. so that said, i do have wholegrain rice once in a while, and when I do I soak them (because my mum always does), and I love sourdough bread and have my beloved starter.

had a recent post on white rice, and wrote a lot more about all these in general on my “listen to your mummy” page on my blog too:
http://mummyicancook.blogspot.com/2012/02/plain-old-boring-rice.html

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Jill February 7, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Where do you recommend purchasing the refractometer? Is there a better brand? (There are some on Amazon, but I wasn’t sure if Matt recommended a particular one.)

Thanks!

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Christy March 1, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I’m intrigued by the whole less liquid thing. I have been struggling with anxiety for several months and I’ve wondered about my blood sugar levels. I drink a lot of water! I get really thirsty. How do you not drink when you’re really thirsty? Is there anything that can help that?

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Delphine April 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Every afternoon my temperature drops dramatically, I pee clear constantly (sorry if that was TMI) and generally feel drained and horrible. Now it all makes sense! I sensed that low-water food made me feel better but I kept reading about how important water consumption is and so I ignored it. No longer! Just further confirmation that your body tells you what it needs.

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Jake June 19, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Matt Stone has been losing his hair at a pace, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen by an adult male (who didn’t have cancer or something). He has gone from having a full head of hair to being pretty much completely bald inside of what, 4 years? Usually it happens over a decade or more. It’s funny that he still uses a picture of him with flowing locks, when he only has thin patches of hair on the top of his head now. His approach is not healthy long term. I appreciate his experimentation, but he’s not in a good state of health.

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Susan June 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Sorry Jake, not buying it. If you want to see someone losing his hair at an astonishing clip then check out Prince William. It happens.

There is no way you can know Matt’s true state of health and for you to blame his hair loss on his diet is a stretch.

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jake July 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

This is over simplified, you need to watch your pulse too….

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