Iodine: A Breast Cancer Cure?

by Ann Marie Michaels on June 20, 2013

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Iodine: Breast Cancer Cure?

Could iodine be a breast cancer cure?

One of my good friends died last year of breast cancer. She was in her 40s. Nowadays, none of us are immune. One in 8 women in the US are diagnosed with breast cancer.

Iodine: Breast Cancer Cure?

I’ve been reading the new book, The Iodine Crisis: What You Don’t Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life by Lynne Farrow, founder of BreastCancerchoices.org. (Look for my review on the blog soon.)

Here are some interesting quotes from the book:

Breast cancer rates have risen since the 1970s as iodine consumption decreased and anti-iodine bromine exposure increased.

Bromide pesticides and fire retardants will wind up being the new DDT, a pesticide banned in 1972, is still present in the breast tissue of women born later than that date. If the underlying cause of thyroid, breast and other hormone-driven diseases is iodine deficiency, then bromide dominance is the underlying cause of that deficiency.

Iodine and Breast Cancer Statistics

Some statistics about iodine and breast cancer:

  • Iodine consumption has decreased 50 percent since the 1970s.
  • Iodine deficiency diseases of the breast, prostate and thyroid, have increased during that time.
  • Thyroid cancer rates rose 182 percent between 1975 and 2005.
  • Breast Cancer has risen from 1 in 23 to 1 in 7-8 since the 1970s.

Why I Take Iodine to Prevent Breast Cancer

After reading Lynne Farrow’s new book, The Iodine Crisis: What You Don’t Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life I’m convinced that I need to take Iodoral every day for breast cancer prevention.

Watch the blog — I’ll soon be posting a review of the new book, The Iodine Crisis: What You Don’t Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life.

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Colleen June 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I have been taking iodine for about a year for thyroid issues. Just curious how much you take daily for prevention. I haven’t heard of this book, but did read one on iodine by Dr. David Brownstein which was very eye-opening. Looking forward to your review.

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:20 AM

I’m taking 50 mg of Iodoral per day, plus salt loading. I need to add the rest of the protocol — selenium etc.

You really need to read Lynne Farrow’s book; it’s only $10 on Amazon: The Iodine Crisis: What You Don’t Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life

Everyone is different so you may not need what I do. Lynne Farrow recommends working with an iodine doctor.

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Sharon June 21, 2013 at 4:53 AM

After the birth of my second child, we started using RealSalt, not iodized NaCl, my hair started falling out in handfuls, I had heart racing episodes, and I became a nervous wreck. A few google searches later, and Lugol’s Solution rescued me from my misery.

Thinking back, I had temporarily worked with a lady who was nearly impossible to be around– controlling, nervous, etc. And two years later, I found out she had died of breast cancer. Perhaps those symptoms were no coincidence…

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Margo June 22, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Hi Sharon! Margo from Iowa here! I use REAL SALT & others, but I’m sure I don’t get enough Iodine either. What salt should I use as I HATE table salt…my hair has been falling out a lot…my daughter is 5 months old & my hormones are changing too, but if this would help my hair it is sure worth a try! Also, I just bought some BEEF GELATIN from GREAT LAKES & it should help my hair & will be a healthy way to make Jello. Any other ideas you have for hair loss would be MUCH appreciated…preferably something I can EAT! Thanks, Margo :-)

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Pat Robinson June 21, 2013 at 5:05 AM

I’d be very careful with iodine supplementation and thyroid disease. Many women are thrown into thyroid crisis as a result, due to undetected Hashimoto’s disease.

Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis is an autoimmune thyroid disease based on a dysfunctional immune system in which your thyroid is being attacked by your immune system via antibodies. The thyroid peroxidase antibodies (TPOAb) characteristic of Hashimoto’s disease were detected in about half of pregnant women with subclinical hypothyroidism, and in more than 80% of women with overt hypothyroidism.

Stop the thyroid madness: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/hashimotos/
Dr. Kharrazian re: Iodine and Hashimoto’s: http://thyroidbook.com/blog/iodine-and-hashimotos/
Dr. Kharrazian re: Iodine and autoimmune disease: http://drknews.com/some-studies-on-iodine-and-autoimmune-thyroid-disease/

The hormones are all interconnected: thyroid, cortisol, progesterone, testosterone and estrogen. Heavy metals and halides block the thyroid receptors. Iodine deficiency can be a variable in hypothyroid issues. Iodine deficiency can be a result of blocked thyroid receptors, also. Autoimmune issues due to impaired nutrient absorption, assaulted immune system due to unrecognized allergies (often due to wheat/gluten), imbalanced gut microbials, etc. could be addressed.

I would much prefer to see women naturally balance their hormones through nutrient support with whole foods and herbal adaptogens which support the body with a multitude of phytochemicals and natural constituents.

Acupuncture, homeopathy, herbalism, TCM herbs are other natural routes to consider for hormonal balancing acutely. Decreasing stress, increasing sunshine, walking and gradual increase in exercise, deep breathing, alkalizing the body naturally with plant foods; balancing the gut microbials; including essential fatty acids in natural forms; decreasing Omega 6 fatty acids; decreasing toxins such as fluoride, chlorine, bromides (in processed foods); decreasing BPA and other xenoestrogens; increasing hydration; adding heavy-metal tested sea vegetables; herbal infusions and minerals in sea salt are all NATURAL healing alternatives to consider.

Additionally, it is important to consume co-nutrient food sources of selenium to help bind heavy metals displaced by the iodine. And chloride (magnesium chloride or sodium chloride) to help escort the halides out.

Adaptogen herbs can help the body’s hormone balance. Kelp can help thyroid issues holistically with natural iodine and selenium sources. Also, address the underling causes, such as adrenal exhaustion, estrogen dominance or halide toxin exposures (food additives such as bromides, fluoride, chlorine, etc.).

Even Chris Kresser cautions about iodine supplementation. Although, I would not risk an iodine challenge test, if I had known or unknown mercury issues. http://chriskresser.com/iodine-for-hypothyroidism-like-gasoline-on-a-fire

Here are 621 medical research articles from the US National Library of Medicine regarding natural alternatives and breast cancer: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/guide/health-guide-breast-cancer

Pat Robinson

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Amanda June 21, 2013 at 5:43 AM

Thank you Pat! It’s very nice to see your input on this topic. :)

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Lynn June 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Pat,
Dr. K wrote his book prematurely, alarming people about iodine before he understood the basics of the COMPLETE iodine protocol. Thus, an incomplete iodine protocol creates a margin for error and the rare flare-up of Hashi’s.

Please consider:
1. Dr K neglected to tell people selenium is absolutely essential to metabolize iodine efficiently and to protect the thyroid. See http://jdach1.typepad.com/natural_thyroid/2011/02/selenium-for-hashimotos-thyroiditis-by-jeffrey-dach-md.html

2. Dr. K apparently was not aware of the literature of how to interpret the TSH test while taking iodine. If a practitioner doesn’t realize the TSH elevation of some people taking iodine DOES NOT REFLECT HYPOTHYROIDISM, then they will misdiagnose the patient as becoming hypothyroid.

3. Thousands of thousands of Hashi’s patients have decreased their antibodies and improved their health by taking high doses of iodine in the context of the comprehensive protocol. My husband and I both now have almost no antibodies after supplementing iodine for several years.

Please consult the online iodine groups that have been around for six years. They will document everything I have written above. One can’t argue with their success.

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Lynn June 21, 2013 at 6:38 AM

When I posted above I should have posted my entire name
Lynn Razaitis

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anja June 21, 2013 at 7:15 AM

hello, Pat!

i have hashi, and have supplemented the full protocol as outlined by lynne farrow in her book and on her website to include 125 mg of iodine daily. the result: my antibodies have gone from the known highs of over 300 (i suspect they were much higher prior to iodine but i have no documented proof) to almost non-detect. my thyroid goiters have shrunk and i no longer am subject to the hyper/hypo swings of hashi. i know as sure as i am sitting here that iodine plays and continues to play the major role in the antibody reductions and near 100% alleviation of my symptoms. i have taken iodine, along with the companion nutrients, for about 18 months and will never stop taking it.

you are highly regarded by many in the health world – myself included. i beg you… before you caution folks against the use of something that could very well save their thyroid and perhaps their lives, to carefully assess all of the research. dr k’s research was prematurely published…. resulting in iodophobia, fear of the use of iodine. sadly, many doctors still are susceptible to this and erroneously guide their patients to stay away from this critical nutrient.

thank you for all that you do in the health world, pat. many of your posts and blogs have helped to increase my knowledge of my own body and how i can use natural things to improve the health i have. i heartily disagree with your assessment of iodine. from personal experience. bless you. anja

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Liz J. June 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Yes Iodine has helped me tremendously. I’ve been taking 12.5 mg for 6 years, starting with 50 mg to clear bromide for the first 6 months. My antibodies are in check and my overall health is better now at 38 than it ever was, even my 20′s. I am capable of so much more now. In my 20s I was riddled with pain and fatigue, barely making it through the day, and wondering if life was even worth it at times. I wasn’t suicidal but I figured I would just have to drudge through life and keep searching and praying for answers that I was not getting from any of the doctor visits I paid handsomely for. 13 years later I now have 2 healthy happy young children, a wonderful husband, and am building a house to create our mini homestead with goats and chickens. And I work out intensely (I’ve been a personal trainer throughout this journey) most days without repercussions. I attribute my abundance of good health and energy to WAPF eating and orthoiodosupplementation following the protocols laid out by breastcancerchoices.com and the iodine4health yahoo group. I should also mention I used to get lumps in my breasts and was told that was normal. After the first few months supplementing iodine- no more lumps.

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Liz J. June 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM

*I mean I work out most days of the week without ever having repercussions.

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:13 AM

That’s wonderful! Thanks for sharing

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Jessica June 28, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Hello, Liz,

I cut and pasted the breastcancerchoices.com website into my browser and got a holdover/domain for sale page. Could you check that and share the page you were originally referring to? Many thanks!

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Liz J. June 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Oh yes! Thanks for pointing that out. It’s breastcancerchoices.org NOT .com!

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Liz J. June 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

****breastcancerchoices.org NOT .com!

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Thanks Anja and Lynn for that information

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anja June 22, 2013 at 6:30 AM
Andrea June 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM

I’m wondering – do women who live by the ocean or eat a lot of sea food have less breast cancer?

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:12 AM

Yes, Japanese women have a very low rate of breast cancer. They eat mostly seafood, fish stock and lots of seaweed, all rich in iodine.

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Jennifer June 21, 2013 at 6:10 AM

I agree with Pat to some extent.

Iodine is a nutrient that is lacking in our diets. Indeed, we have sufficient environmental contaminants that easily displace iodine, that even if we think we’re getting enough, we might not be. For sure, iodized salt is not the answer.

I do think diet has a large part to play, particularly the role of insulin. When we get insulin into balance, we necessarily lessen the work that the thyroid needs to do. When the thyroid doesn’t have to do so much conversion of T3 to T4 and back again (via deiodinases), we lessen our need for iodine. I think this is a large component about why a balanced paleo-style diet (that includes clean sea vegetables) works for a lot of people, particularly in the realm of endocrine function.

I think it is important to be cautious if one is going to be supplementing with a product like Iodoral. It should be only one part of a balanced health plan and it should be done with carefully monitoring of various biomarkers. A sound diet, clean home environment, and a lifestyle that reduces (or manages) stress also have to be major components as well.

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anja June 21, 2013 at 7:05 AM

unfortunately, jennifer, there is no longer any such thing as “clean sea vegetables”. they are heavily contaminated with radioactivity (fukoshima), arsenic and heavy metals. you would also have to eat a LOT of sea vegetables to get the kind of iodine needed to counteract all the toxins we are exposed to on a daily basis. some of the sources of bromine/bromide include: car exhaust, laser printers, mattresses, rugs, sofas, fire retardent garments….and so so much more. :( anja

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Charlene June 21, 2013 at 7:46 AM

What are food sources of iodine and selenium?

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April - ReluctantHealthwife June 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Brazil nuts are very high in Selenium. Over 500 mcg/oz. You’d only need 1 a day to get more than the recommended 200-400mcg.

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jane May 14, 2014 at 5:21 PM

but these Brazil nuts should be the ones in a shell as those taken from the area there are gotten from has a lot more selenium than most of the shelled brazil nuts where the soil is more deficient in iodine

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Christine June 21, 2013 at 7:59 AM

I used to take Iodoral, but have long since switched since I have started working with Dr. Wilson. This is taken from one of his articles: “Why kelp and not other iodine preparations? I prefer Kelp instead of Iodoral, Lugol’s solution, Prolamine Iodine and other iodine preparations because:

1. Kelp is non-toxic. All the other kelp preparations listed above build up in the liver to some degree, indicating some toxicity. Also, all single-mineral products can interfere with the absorption of other minerals. Minerals all compete for absorption to some degree. Taking a balanced food such as kelp, rather than a single mineral product, appears to be much safer for long-term use, which most people need.
2. Kelp is often more effective. This may be because it is a natural food, and perhaps better utilized.
3. Kelp also contains 20 or more other trace minerals, which is a distinct advantage as these are needed today by most everyone.
4. Kelp is less expensive, especially considering that it is a “green food” supplement as well as a source of iodine.

NOTE: In a few rare cases I have found that Lugol’s solution or Iodoral was needed for a short time to prevent goiter. I do not know why this is so, but it must be because the body needed this particular form of iodine. Eventually, I would think the Lugols’ solution would not be needed, as it is a little toxic. ”

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/KELP.HTM

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:10 AM

Here’s what Lynne Farrow says in her book about kelp (she does not recommend it):

1. There’s a danger that the seaweed may have picked up arsenic, heavy metals, oil spill dispersants, radiation or other contaminants from our now-polluted seawater. Also, you never know how much iodine you’re getting in such items as kelp tablets or what the ingredients used as tablet filler and binders do. Seaweed loses much of its iodine content after harvesting, so after being reprocessed into tablets, and stockpiled in a warehouse for months, do you really know what you’re taking?              

2. The Fukushima Japanese nuclear reactor explosion seems to have contaminated much of the world’s seaweed. This nuclear contamination has been virtually ignored outside Japan. Although, according to The Maritime Executive publication, The Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety reported that the Fukushima disaster produced the world’s worst nuclear sea pollution. Also, we’ve almost forgotten about the oil spills in the US Gulf that have migrated far out and the dispersants used to dissolve the oil present additional sea life contamination problems. We don’t know how long crops of seaweed remain contaminated.

Farrow, Lynne (2013-04-01). The Iodine Crisis: What You Don’t Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life (pp. 37-38). Devon Press. Kindle Edition.

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anja June 22, 2013 at 6:33 AM

thank you for taking the time to type that out. it’s critical that folks rely on a good, non-contaminated source of iodine. stick with tried and true! iodoral or lugol’s. anja

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Christine June 28, 2013 at 3:03 PM

There are certain brands of kelp that are better than others, but it is still the best choice. One should never take an isolated vitamin or mineral.

This is an exerpt taken from another article:

“There is much you can do to protect yourself from radiation toxicity.  At this time, there is no reason to panic.  Instead, do the following:
 
1. Take kelp, not potassium iodide.  Kelp is far more physiological, safer, more nutritious, and contains many more essential minerals than potassium iodide.
 
2. Realize that iodine is not the only need after a nuclear meltdown or radiation release.  The reason iodine is given is because one element released in many nuclear accidents is radioactive iodine.  This is taken up by plants, animals and human beings.  It tends to cause thyroid cancers, hypothyroidism, birth defects and many other problems.  If one has enough iodine in the body, the body will take up less of the radioactive iodine, and therefore the effects will be lessened.
                  However, a nuclear accident releases many other radioactive and even more harmful minerals as well.  These include cesium 137, plutonium, uranium, radium, and at least a dozen others.  Some have short half lives and become less toxic in a few days to a few weeks, so they are less of a problem.  Others, such as uranium-235 and -238 last for years in your body.  Kelp provides many more of the physiological minerals than potassium iodide, so it protects better in this way.
 
3. Take about 1500-3000 mg of kelp daily.  If you get a slight reaction to it, start with less and work up slowly to these levels.
 
4. A nutritional balancing program is the best antidote for radiation poisoning that I know of.  All of us have been exposed to radiation, more than was released in all of World War II. 
A nutritional balancing program will slowly remove many radioactive minerals from the body.  The mechanisms include:
a) Kelp, as mentioned above, antagonizes and helps prevent and remove some radioactive minerals from the body.
b) Renourishing hundreds of nutrients, including two dozen or more vital minerals, many vitamins, all the amino acids and hundreds if not thousands of other phytochemicals found in cooked, not raw vegetables, animal proteins and the other foods we suggest.  It is truly the anti-radiation diet.
c) Nutritional balancing also protects and strengthens the body in other more subtle ways.  These include making the body more yang and improving its vitality.  This definitely helps protect against radiation damage.
Mental development that occurs with a nutritional balancing program may help to avoid some types of radiation damage and reverse its effects.
Sauna therapy, a type of heat therapy, may help kill off weakened cells that have been weakened or mutated as a result of radiation damage.  Otherwise, these cells multiply, and eventually cause caners and other diseases.”
http://drlwilson.com/Articles/NUCLEAR%20POWER-2011.htm

And this:
Iodoral has certain properties that make it a problem, however.  It contains only iodine, whereas kelp, for example, contains iodine and many other excellent minerals such as selenium, chromium, germanium, rubidium and others that are needed today by everyone.
This is the main reason I do not like the use of Iodoral or Lugol’s solution.
 
Kelp. I prefer to recommend kelp, about three to six 500-600 mg capsules daily.  It is an excellent source of iodine.  Kelp has the following advantages over Iodoral:
 
·           It contains many trace elements our bodies need.  These include selenium, chromium, germanium and many others that are hard to obtain today.
·           It is also a natural food, so it is adequately absorbed and the body can regulate how much it absorbs without any danger of toxicity.  I have seen toxicity from Iodoral in a few cases.
·           It is also less expensive than Iodoral, I believe, though this is not a major concern.
·           It is also available without a prescription, which is convenient.
 
Kelp has the disadvantage of containing some amounts of toxic metals.  However, this is offset to a large degree by its content of alginates and other materials that help absorb toxic metals in the intestines and prevent their uptake by the body. 
The same is not true, by the way, of the other sea vegetables or seafood such as fish or shellfish.  This is why I prefer using kelp as a source of iodine instead of more fish, seafood or other sea vegetables, although some fish or sea vegetables are fine in the diet once or twice weekly.” http://drlwilson.com/Articles/IODINE.htm

And finally:

”            Kelp, a sea vegetable, is another wonderful food.  However, it must be the kelp capsules from Nature’s Way or Solaray companies only, or granules from Frontier Herbs or Monterrey Bay Herbs.  This is important because many brands of kelp are different species that are not as good, and higher in mercury.
The correct brand of kelp is a life-saving food supplement that I recommend for everyone.  It is a rich source of hundreds of trace and ultra-trace minerals.   It is also better than most “mineral supplements”, including earth-based products like fulvic and humic acid, zeolite, sea-based minerals, and others.
One of its most important roles is to provide bioavailable iodine, a mineral that few are getting enough of from their food.  Kelp is far more physiological than most other iodine products, and more balanced so it does not cause toxicity, as do the others.  It also contains a very bioavailable form of calcium not found in most foods.
            Kelp is also a source of many phytonutrients that are hard to find in other foods.  So it provides a host of nutrients at a very reasonable cost.
 
Kelp versus “green superfoods”.  Kelp is the best green superfood.  I prefer kelp to others because:
1. Others often contain chelators such as chlorella, cilantro, and zeolite.  We find these always remove some vital minerals from the body. 
2. Others contain algae that is less compatible with human physiology such as spirulina, chlorella and blue-green algae that we always find are slightly toxic.
3. Kelp does not go rancid, as do the green powders.  The salt in kelp apparently preserves it far better.
4. Kelp is far more yang in Chinese terminology than the others, which makes it a more balanced and healthful product.
5. Kelp contains far more alginates than the others.  This compound protects the body against mercury and other toxic metals present in most sea vegetables and other foods.  All the other green foods contain either none of this chemical, or much less of it.  This is why I never recommend other sea vegetables, although they are nutritious foods.
 
            Reactions to kelp.  Kelp is a powerful food supplement and herb.  Occasionally, a person has a reaction to kelp.  In most cases it is mild and temporary.  The cause is often the removal of an iodine antagonist, either a bromine, fluorine or chlorine compound.  Iodine is stimulating in a few instances.  Most of the time, just reduce the dose for a while, and then work up very slowly.  Most everyone has been able to take kelp eventually. 
            Adults can work up to about 1800 mg of kelp daily, taken in divided doses with meals.  Children also need kelp, and should take less depending on their weight and size.   Children less than three years old usually do not need to take kelp.” http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/HEALING%20LIFESTYLE.htm

Dr. Wilson knows healthy human biochemistry like the back of his hand and has been reading and interpreting hair tissue samples for over 30 years, and this includes heavy metals. I trust him on this one.

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Lynne Farrow June 29, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Christine,

Thanks so much for the opportunity to address some misconceptions about iodine. I realize you cite some of your information from Dr. Wilson, but I’ll address your post as one source and offer two main points:

1. Kelp is definitively not safer to take than iodine during radiation exposure. In fact, kelp is already contaminated with radiation and other toxins as Ann Marie mentioned. Also, the iodine in kelp “evaporates” into the air after collection so kelp supplements can be a total waste of money and would not offer adequate protection. Suggesting anyone substitute an unreliable source of iodine in a nuclear emergency would be considered dangerous advice by those expert in radiation exposure.

Also, the term, “kelp” is an umbrella term for most large seaweeds. If you’re taking kelp you never know what you’re getting.

2. You suggest taking minerals in concert as whole food sources is nutritionally beneficial. That’s usually considered beneficial.

***But iodine is NOT a mineral.***

Iodine falls into a different category of elements altogether. Iodine along with fluorine and bromine is a halogen. Halogens compete with each other. You never want to consume halogens “in concert” because some are powerful toxins. Unlike minerals, there is no synergy benefit in consuming multiple halogens.

You want employ the opposite strategy. You want to target and overpower the toxic halogens with the beneficial one, iodine. Exposure to halogen toxins (mainly bromide fire retardants and pesticides) since the 1970s has purged iodine from our bodies. Thus, the need to focus on detoxing toxic halogens out with iodine so the iodine can get absorbed.

I hope this clarifies some common misconceptions about iodine. Many more exist and I welcome any discussion.

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Jennifer June 29, 2013 at 10:21 AM

“***But iodine is NOT a mineral.***”

It is still a mineral, I assure you… By definition, a mineral (in the body, specifically) is an inorganic regulator in biochemical processes. However, iodine specifically also happens to be part of the halogens in the periodic table.

It happens that iodine carries a weaker charge on its ionic form than do ionic forms of Fluorine, Bromine, and Chlorine. This weaker charge occurs because of the atomic properties of Iodine (i.e., look at the periodic table of the elements – the elements above iodine are more “reactive” than iodine itself).

If you want credibility for your topic (especially from serious health practitioners and scientists), please learn the terms and use them properly.

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Christine June 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I appreciate your response Lynne, but I’m not sure you actually read the excerpts I posted.

Like this:
Kelp is NON-TOXIC. All the other kelp preparations (lugols, iodoral, etc.) build up in the liver to some degree, indicating SOME TOXICITY. Also, all single-mineral products can interfere with the absorption of other minerals. Minerals all compete for absorption to some degree. Taking a balanced food such as kelp, rather than a single mineral product, appears to be MUCH SAFER for long-term use, which most people need.

And this:
Realize that iodine is NOT THE ONLY need after a nuclear meltdown or radiation release…Kelp provides many more of the physiological minerals than potassium iodide, so IT PROTECTS BETTER in this way.

And this:
It contains many trace elements our bodies need.  These include selenium, chromium, germanium and many others that are hard to obtain today.
It is also a natural food, so it is adequately absorbed and the body can regulate how much it absorbs WITHOUT ANY DANGER OF TOXICITY.  I have seen toxicity from Iodoral in a few cases.

And: (this is where you are partially correct…)
Kelp has the disadvantage of containing some amounts of toxic metals.  However, this is offset to a large degree by its content of ALGINATES and other materials that HELP ABSORB TOXIC METALS in the intestines and PREVENT THEIR UPTAKE by the body. The same is not true, by the way, of the other sea vegetables or seafood such as fish or shellfish. 

And like I said:
However, it must be the kelp capsules from Nature’s Way or Solaray companies only, or granules from Frontier Herbs or Monterrey Bay Herbs.  This is important because many brands of kelp are different species that are not as good, and higher in mercury.

And as a reminder:
Kelp is far more physiological than most other iodine products, and more balanced so IT DOES NOT CAUSE TOXICITY as do the others.  It also contains a very bioavailable form of calcium not found in most foods. Kelp contains far more alginates than the others.  This compound PROTECTS THE BODY AGAINST MERCURY AND OTHER TOXIC METALS present in most sea vegetables and other foods.

These are facts that you may have not known about kelp. But, Dr. Wilson has been using it for many, many years in his protocols without any problems. In fact, if there were problems with toxicity, they would show up on the hair mineral analysis of his patients, which he has been doing for over 30 years. He is an expert in human biochemistry. And if it didn’t work, he would remove it from his program and replace it with something better.

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Lynn Razaitis June 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Christine
Please site references for this:
“Kelp is NON-TOXIC. All the other kelp preparations (lugols, iodoral, etc.) build up in the liver to some degree, indicating SOME TOXICITY. Also, all single-mineral products can interfere with the absorption of other minerals. Minerals all compete for absorption to some degree. Taking a balanced food such as kelp, rather than a single mineral product, appears to be MUCH SAFER for long-term use, which most people need.”

I don’t know if you realize that Lugol and iodoral are not kelp preparations.
1. Where do you find that they are?
2. Where do you find that lugols or iodoral build up in the liver or is this hearsay?
3. And where do you find that iodine interfers with other mineral absorption?
Also please give a reference for absorption interference unless you are talking about absorption of fluoride and bromide in which case this is exactly why iodine in needed. Yes it interferes with their absorption or rather attachment to the symporters on the cell membranes.

Lynn

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Christine June 29, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Lynn,

Please see my original post, it has all of the references. I was just simply repeating what I already posted.

Yes, I do realize that Lugols and Iodoral are not kelp preparations. I never said they were.

Dr. Wilson said that they can build up in the liver. You can find this quote and the article it came from in my first post.

All minerals have the ability to compete with one another, not just iodine.

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Lynn Razaitis June 29, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Christine

Iodine is an element in the halide family. Rarely is it bound to a mineral. Usually Iodine found in a brine solution with other minerals present and is separated out.These brines are usually ancient solutions that have been trapped under the earth. The element iodine by itself is not solid at normal temperatures (minerals are) so it readily goes into the atmosphere. That’s why it’s bound to another element such as potassium to stabilize it making potassium iodide. In seaweeds the iodine is bound to organic compounds. These organic compounds may or may not allow the iodine to be absorbed by our body. It depends on the compound and type of seaweed.

The nutrition sites often refer to iodine as a mineral especially sites that are picking up their information from other sites…i.e he said, she said. Go to a highly reputable site like the Linus Pauling Institute and you will only see it referred to as an essential element not a mineral. It would probably be better to refer to iodine as a nutrient if the word element is confusing. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/iodine/

In terms of seaweeds….I realize a lot of people including Dr. Wilson like seaweeds. I read and like a lot of what Dr. Wilson writes but he’s not an expert on everything. In the case of recommending seaweed only, it’s unknown how much iodine you would be getting..certainly not enough to knock out the bromide and fluoride we are exposed to daily. No ancient civilization that used seaweeds had to deal with this problem. It’s a big one without any good solution except increased doses of iodine.

I hope this helps clarify your misunderstandings. I would highly recommend the facebook group Iodine Workshop https://www.facebook.com/groups/309122002556036/ and Curezone Iodine Supplementation, http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=815
There are wealth of experienced people on these groups who have been using iodine successfully for years.

Lynn Razaitis,
EdS. Geological Education, GA State University

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Christine June 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Dr. Wilson does not like seaweeds, as already stated in the above excerpts. He only likes a selected few brands of kelp. And he definitely doesn’t recommend kelp only, he recommends a full HTMA along with a full, personalized supplement program for biochemical restoration and detoxification.

Thank you for your concern, but I don’t have any misunderstandings.

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Lynn Razaitis June 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Sorry Christine….this was meant for Jennifer who says iodine is a mineral.

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Lynne Farrow June 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Christine,

Please know I read every word of your post carefully and weighed how to respond to your many points. After reading your presentation and link to Dr. Wilson, I decided there was too much material there to rebut so I chose the few points which were most significant in terms of misconceptions.

Practitioner loyalty dilemma in discussion:

From experience, I’ve found it’s 100% futile to argue with who people invest their opinions in one practitioner’s views. It’s a case where we must agree to disagree.

Seaweed was a miracle food:

Please understand that I’ve researched the history of seaweed as medicine back to 15,000 years BC and discussed the subject with archaeologists, ethnobotanists, doctors and herbalists. Seaweeds were miracle foods and medicines–so I’m rooting for you on that point.

But scientists have found seaweeds have become contaminated. People have ended up in the emergency room with toxin contaminated seaweed. See http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/seaweed

Living in a post bromide world:

Also, as Lynn Razaitis brought up, seaweeds might have been enough source of iodine 30 years ago but now we are so blasted with bromide toxins, that seaweed doesn’t contain enough iodine to compensate for bromide dominance.

Best of luck in your pursuit of health information,
Lynne

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Christine July 1, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Lynne,

I see that you keep lumping all seaweeds together as one. They are not, and I have made that distinction.

I have clearly stated that ONLY CERTAIN BRANDS OF KELP (and no other seaweeds) are more beneficial to take than iodoral or Lugols’s.

I do not believe that ALL seaweeds are good. Only particular brands of kelp can claim this because of the ALGINATES they contain that no other seaweed does. It is very important to make this distinction. Perhaps this is too complicated for most people, so it may be wise not to recommend kelp at all.

It is also important to note that on a complete Nutritional Balancing program (biochemical restoration), kelp is not the only supplement used to rid the body of bromides and other toxic metals. Kelp is helpful and non-toxic, but certainly not a miracle supplement and it certainly cannot work alone.

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Pat Robinson June 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

National Institute of Health (NIH): “Iodine is a mineral.”
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iodine-QuickFacts/

Medline: “Iodine is a trace mineral.”
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002421.htm

Dr. Weil: “Iodine is a non-metallic mineral.”
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02872/iodine.html

US Geology Survey.gov, regarding the mineral Iodine: http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/iodine/

The Linus Pauling reference link is from the category “Minerals”, see URL: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/iodine/

NHS (National Health Service of the UK): “Iodine is a trace mineral.”
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/06June/Pages/concern-over-iodine-levels-in-girls.aspx

The Minerals Education Coalition identifies Iodine as a mineral.

“Sources: Iodine is primarily retrieved from underground brines (water with many dissolved salts and ions) that are associated with natural gas and oil deposits. It is also retrieved as a by-product with nitrate deposits in caliche deposits.”
http://www.mineralseducationcoalition.org/minerals

The Merck Manual considers Iodine a mineral:

“Iodine Toxicity

Chronic toxicity may develop when intake is > 1.1 mg/day. Most people who ingest excess amounts of iodine remain euthyroid. Some people who ingest excess amounts of iodine, particularly those who were previously deficient, develop hyperthyroidism (Jod-Basedow phenomenon).

Paradoxically, excess uptake of iodine by the thyroid may inhibit thyroid hormone synthesis (called Wolff-Chaikoff effect). Thus, iodine toxicity can eventually cause iodide goiter, hypothyroidism, or myxedema. Very large amounts of iodide may cause a brassy taste in the mouth, increased salivation, GI irritation, and acne form skin lesions.”
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/nutritional_disorders/mineral_deficiency_and_toxicity/iodine.html

Apparently Iodine becomes a gas at 114 degrees Celsius, which is 237 degrees Fahrenheit. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99605.htm

Iodine is produced in a few countries in the world, with most coming from Chile and Japan.
http://www.iofina.com/about/overview-and-history

Crude iodine is extracted from Kansui, Japan from the water produced with dissolved gas, then exported to overseas as a raw material for pharmaceuticals and chemicals.
http://www.nex.jx-group.co.jp/english/activity/japan/nakajyo.html

“INGESTION HAZARDS
Toxic doses of iodine are achieved only by ingestion. Whereas the Oral LD50 for a rat is 14,000 mg/kg, the LDLo for a human is 28 mg/kg. By inhalation, this would be approximately the same as breathing 126-190 ppm for 30 minutes (16), which would not be possible due to iodine’s irritating odor. Iodism, the term for overexposure to iodine, is characterized by headache, excess salivation, runny nose, eye irritation, laryngitis,
bronchitis, inflammation of oral mucosa, enlarged submaxillary glands, inflammation of the parotid and skin rashes (17).

Iodine has effect on mothers in middle and late pregnancy by ingestion. Administration of expectorants that contained iodides to pregnant mothers in the past has been associated with development of goiter in the fetus. It can be passed through breast milk (18). ”
http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/cci/safety/iodine_hazards.pdf

MSDS for Iodine: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927547

I’ll choose quality-tested kelp for my natural iodine source.

Pat Robinson

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Grizz June 21, 2013 at 8:17 AM

@@ Pat,

Lynn hit the nail right on the head. Iodine by itself can indeed cause problems with the thyroid, and that is where the story of “Beware of Iodine” started. The thyroid requires BOTH iodine and selenium. They are co-requisites, and this is why Dr. Brownstein specifies 200mcg of selenium in his iodine protocol. Here are some additional links to explain the complex relationship between iodine, selenium & hashimotos: BTW, iodine does cure Hashi and other thyroid problems such as nodules as you will read in the following Dr. Research Reports located at http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_q9ixGwZFon9yidvmZ0IFbp3Vj5jXDmOp0HwpdBS6VY/edit#heading=h.8eltjvzb6ets

For the complete Iodine References see this link:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

For the handout for family & friends, see this link:
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout

@@ Andrea,
“I’m wondering – do women who live by the ocean or eat a lot of sea food have less breast cancer?”

Yes ! Cancer in Japan is rare. This gets even better. Iodine is used by our immune system to kill cancers before they can grow, a process called apoptosis. Even better, just as author Lynne Farrow said in her book, The Iodine Crises, iodine killed her breast cancer. In our tiny little town Yuma in rural Tennessee, we have used the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol to cure a case of TERMINAL CANCER of the Uterus. Doctors sent her to home hospice to die, and iodine totally cured her in 9 months. She has gone from bed ridden to running around with a big smile. We also cured 2 women of Fibrocystic Breast Disease in less than 1 month. We also have reduced a breast cancer case by 90% in only 2 months.
See this link for details on how & why iodine cures cancer:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_q9ixGwZFon9yidvmZ0IFbp3Vj5jXDmOp0HwpdBS6VY/edit#heading=h.dktzefb7wyvm

IMO, Iodine is THE Miracle from God, and it belongs in EVERY woman’s pantry,
Grizz

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Pogonia June 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Subscribing to comments. This is something I desperately want to learn more about!!! Thank you all for sharing your knowledge. :)

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jmr June 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I’ve read much about both sides of the iodine debate. I’ve talked to many people it has helped and many people it has harmed. My own gut feeling was that I should not take iodine. Later I did muscle testing that showed me reacting very negatively to iodine, and a doctor tested my iodine level and told me I had sufficient levels. I chose not to take iodine in my journey toward better health, but I do still wonder if I’m not missing out on its positive effects on breast health. I still feel certain it would be unwise for me to take it for thyroid health…but I feel equally certain it is essential for some other people to take it for thyroid health. Every body has different needs.

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grizz June 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

jmr,

Iodine cannot harm anyone, if taken with the required co-supplements as directed by Dr. Brownstein:
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout
The required co-supplements help our body detox from the toxins of Fluoride, Bromide & chlorine.
http://www.freegrab.net/Iodine%20update.htm#section18

The supposed “Harm” reported by people taking iodine is simply the temporary detox symptoms from taking too much iodine too soon. Symptoms include headache, bloat, pimples, skin rash & more.
Detox Symptoms:
http://tinyurl.com/Detox-Help

As described in the iodine handout, there are procedures to help a person get through Detox with minimal symptoms. EVERYONE is loaded with these toxins, so everyone starting iodine can expect detox symptoms. All symptoms are temporary.

The fact is that every cell in our body requires iodine, especially the female organs and the thyroid. There is a nationwide epidemic of iodine deficiency because the halides of fluoride, bromide & chlorine have taken over cell receptors for iodine. Halides are the MAIN reason for thyroid problems, breast, ovary & uterus problems. All require a LOT of iodine, and suffer terribly from the halide toxins. We live in a sea of these toxins, they are everywhere and in our food & water. Do a google search of Halide Poisoning for more.

People are taking 100mg of iodine a day and even more with zero problems.. But these people started with a small amount, less than 1mg a day to detox slowly.

Further, you cannot take a blood test for iodine. You must take the Urine Loading test to get an accurate reading. But then you must also take the bromide & fluoride test at the same time to avoid a false reading:
http://www.hakalalabs.com/testing.html

For more on testing, see the chapter testing here:
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading

For more, refer to Iodine References:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

Hope this helps clear up the facts,
Grizz

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jmr June 22, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Grizz, thank you for your kind and informative reply. I think you must have missed the part where I said I had studied this issue and that I agree it has helped many people. Also, the test I took was a urine loading, not blood, test. Unfortunately, there seem to be many who have an almost religious fervor on the subject of iodine and are not willing to listen to anyone else’s beliefs or experiences. That is certainly your right, but I respectfully disagree that iodine supplementation can never be harmful. I understand you don’t agree with that and don’t believe there is any controversy whatsoever, but I suppose with the same fervor, I believe there is.

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

jmr,

You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it is. Many doctors do not agree with you. Iodine is required by every cell in our body, and is therefore not a problem. Our bodies would simply not demand a mineral that is harmful. What IS harmful is the Fluoride, Bromide & Chlorine that takes over the iodine receptors in our cells.

Where is your proof that iodine is a problem? Where are the documented problem reports? Just because you say iodine is a problem does not make it so. Are you a doctor??

Here is the definitive report to say that iodine is not a problem, by Dr. Cousens, in his rebuttal to the Anti-Iodine Dr. Mercola. Read this report for the TRUTH.
1st paragraph attacks Dr. Mercola to make him look like a fool.

“In 1911, 900 milligrams! daily (900,000 micrograms/day) were considered
usual and!safe!doses. In 1950 the!Japanese had!100 times more iodine in their diet than!Americans. In!2001 they!had 202!times!more iodine!than Americans and!were using up to 13.8 milligrams daily as opposed to the average US intake of! 425 micrograms daily. Unfortunately there has been no real study, ever, about what is the optimal safe!dosage of iodine. Be that as it may, no one has ever died from iodine overdose or allergic reactions. it is safe to suggest that at least the guidelines given
by Drs. Abraham and Brownstein for the use of 12S50 milligrams of iodine daily, for overall sufficiency and! wellbeing, and up to 100 milligrams/day for diabetics is 2 reasonable in doing much more for our health than to prevent cretinism, mental retardation, and goiter. Moreover, iodine is a universal health mineral having 22 major health and well being benefits (see below) for humans, many of which are largely unknown to this!day. My prudent suggestion is that as we follow these ideas, it is important to move forward carefully as we treat this pandemic level of 72% iodine deficiency in the world and a shocking 96% deficiency in Americans, affecting the minds of billions of people. I strongly recommend that people reevaluate the amounts of iodine people consume. I recommend that children under 6 years of!age take half the adult dose, children 2 years take ¼ the adult dose……..
Read the rest of this exciting report here:
http://www.gabrielcousens.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=LghQRidoLyU%3d&tabid=364&mid=6700&language=en-US

We do not have “Religious Ferver,” we have the facts presented by world renowned doctors, and our own experiences. Also read our Testimonials which are organized by subject:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

Grizz

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diana June 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I have Hashi’s. I’ve only just begun to dip my toe into the iodine/selenium debate so I’m not taking sides yet. Thanks for all the info here, I’ll be reading it all.

Here is some reading about gut microbiota and breast cancer.

http://phys.org/news175953178.html

The problem I have with taking supplements is this: if your gut flora are all messed up, you could take all the right supps but you wouldn’t absorb them properly.

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Grizz June 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

“I have Hashi’s. I’ve only just begun to dip my toe into the iodine/selenium debate so I’m not taking sides yet.”

Diana,
Please read the facts about Hashi’s here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_q9ixGwZFon9yidvmZ0IFbp3Vj5jXDmOp0HwpdBS6VY/edit#heading=h.8eltjvzb6ets
There is nothing to debate.

Grizz

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trish June 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM

thank you for this post…following! how do you think this ties into Matt Stone? :)

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:04 AM

Matt Stone helped me normalize my metabolism: http://www.cheeseslave.com/matt-stones-diet-recovery-my-experience/

But I truly believe we are all deficient in iodine. And I think it’s breast cancer prevention.

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Diana June 22, 2013 at 5:25 AM

Ann Marie,

“Since last fall, I’ve been working to balance my metabolism. I’ve had hormonal issues — notably low thyroid and low adrenal function — since I gave birth to my first child in 2007.”

This is from the link about how Stone helped you ‘normalize’ your metabolism. I read it, and commented there. But since you mention it here….

Do you take thyroid meds? Do you have Hashi’s?

What is ‘low adrenal function’? Is there a test for this?

In the account about how Stone helped you heal your metabolism, you admit that you gained 30 pounds.

How is this good?

Have you lost more than 10 pounds since your last check-in, and how did you lose the 10 pounds? By eating more?

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:34 AM

Hi, Diana

Do you take thyroid meds? Do you have Hashi’s?

No and no.

What is ‘low adrenal function’? Is there a test for this?

Yes you can google it.

In the account about how Stone helped you heal your metabolism, you admit that you gained 30 pounds. How is this good?

I did gain weight (20 pounds, not 30) but I’ve since lost it. It’s temporary weight gain in the service of regulating hormones and getting the body temperature up.

A year later, I’m back down to below the weight I was before I started Matt’s plan. And my body temp is still a steady 98.6.

Have you lost more than 10 pounds since your last check-in, and how did you lose the 10 pounds? By eating more?

No, by exercising and eating less. Which Matt recommends as soon as you are ready.

As far as how I lost the weight, the first 5 pounds came off effortlessly. Then I started exercising and eating less. I still eat what I want, I just eat less. Read this: http://www.cheeseslave.com/how-i-lost-10-pounds-in-one-month-with-my-fitbit/

We are kicking off the FitBit Challenge tomorrow. Working on the post right now which will go up today.

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Diana June 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Ann Marie,

It sounds to me as if you have a self-diagnosed case of thyroid and adrenal issues.

Self-diagnosed to me means….nothing. Sorry to sound uncompassionate, but to those of us with a diagnosed disorder, it sounds like hypochondria.

I did google adrenal insufficiency and found nothing in reliable, scientific literature. I searched in Pubmed and found lots about adrenal failure, but these are serious diagnosed disorders. Not vague, nonspecific claims, such as yours.

It also sounds to me as if you are under the thrall of a guru. I’ve read Stone’s website and I think it’s awful. He had the nerve to criticize Angelina Jolie for her double mastectomy. He has done no research, has no credentials, and advocates eating unhealthy foods.

All that happened is that you gained 20 pounds eating junk. You cut the junk, you cut the portions, upped the exercise, and you are losing.

You could have done this without Matt Stone’s “help.”

The scientific literature on leaky gut (“intestinal permeability”), gluten sensitivity, wheat allergens, dysbiosis (google all of them) is legion. If you have a true, diagnosed autoimmune disorder, you should not be eating the junk that Stone advocates.

The fact that you lost weight by making a few dietary adjustments tells me that nothing was ever wrong with your metabolism.

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM

@Diana

Thanks for your comment but you don’t know what you are talking about.

I gained 20 pounds eating very healthy foods, not junk. I’m eating more “junk” now than I did when I was not losing.

And I never said I had a thyroid condition. That said, there WAS something wrong with my metabolism. I had hormone tests done years ago… which I have published somewhere on this blog — they did show adrenal fatigue and slightly low thyroid.

But more importantly, my temperature was consistently low. Nothing helped get my body temperature up to a normal level until I followed Matt Stone’s advice.

If you want to believe that low body temperature is NOT a sign of metabolic issues, that’s fine. Believe that if you want to. But you’re wrong.

The scientific literature on leaky gut (“intestinal permeability”), gluten sensitivity, wheat allergens, dysbiosis (google all of them) is legion. If you have a true, diagnosed autoimmune disorder, you should not be eating the junk that Stone advocates.

I don’t need to google them. I lived it firsthand. I healed my own leaky gut and gluten intolerance 15 years ago.

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Tammy June 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Following!

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Tammy June 21, 2013 at 10:02 PM

@Grizz
or anyone else

I skimmed a few of your links about iodine and learned that gradually supplementing iodine actually detoxifies you from the toxins of Fluoride, Bromide & chlorine…
Is this safe while still breastfeeding (baby is 16months old)? I think detox is forbidden while breastfeeding.
I’ve developed Hashi postpartum my thyroid antibodies are still over 1000. Selenium alone is not helping with that. I’m slowly transitioning to autoimmune paleo-ish diet. I think I need to try iodine but it is so hard to find any useful data about how to deal with this while still breastfeeding!

if you decide to do kelp, how much do you take, is there a protocol for taking kelp?

Thx so much!

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Tammy,

That is a very good question. Detox means that toxins are indeed taken from the organs and sent through the liver & kidney into your urine.

The reason why we start with such a small dose of iodine and titrate up so slowly is to avoid detox symptoms. Detox means more toxins in the bloodstream than our liver & kidneys can process. In this case, toxins leave the breast and go out as urine. However if you were to start pregnancy, the advice is to not increase iodine dosage because toxins could harm the fetus.

IMO, your milk & baby are safe. Your breasts will then be receiving vital iodine into their receptors to help baby by providing iodine in his milk.

However, I have asked Lynn for her second opinion for verification because you have such a good question. Lynn has been involved with iodine far longer than I have, so I would also like to see her response.

Every cell in the human body requires iodine. Women especially need a LOT more iodine than men do because of demands by the breasts, ovaries, & uterus. Breast pains go away, cysts & fibroids go away, and cancers are prevented/cured.

Men also have special needs for iodine for their testes, & prostate. Iodine deficiency for men means erectile dysfunction, loss of testosterone, loss of sensitivity. Hormones in both men & women are dependent on a sufficient amount of iodine.

Best to you,
Grizz

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anja June 22, 2013 at 3:40 AM

tammy, the common response from the iodine literate is that you don’t want to exceed 12.5 mg while pregnant and breastfeeding if you were not already taking iodine. so…it’s ok to go ahead slowly, starting with 1 drop (diluted, even, if you like) with the required companion nutrients and work your way up to 12.5 mg. then go higher when your child is weaned, if you desire. bless you! anja

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Lynne Farrow June 22, 2013 at 6:45 AM

It’s optimal to start taking iodine before conceiving, but if you’re already pregnant the experienced iodine doctors suggest starting at a maximum of 12.5 mg. Thank you, Anja, for mentioning this standard of care in the iodine community. Ideally, you should find an iodine literate practitioner to guide you so that you are taking the complete Iodine Protocol which is a system to optimize absorption and minimize detox.

Significant evidence worldwide shows iodine raises the IQ of the baby and helps prevent underweight babies.

Many women have started at lower doses than 12.5 mg to sneak the iodine nutrition into the body while minimizing detoxification.

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Tammy June 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Thank you all for the help!
I’ve carefully read many of the attached links and talked with my doctor.
I will start slowly as suggested with 1drop and work my way up to 12.5mg. I will do the suggested supplements with it as well.

I’ve been reading that Chlorella can be very beneficial while breastfeeding. Something about binding the toxins in the stool and does not letting them go into the milk.
Do you maybe have an opinion about this?
Can this help with possible detox from iodine?
I don’t want any nasty stuff going in to the milk…

Thank you again!

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:06 AM

I’d consult with an iodine doctor. Read Lynne Farrow’s book (link above in the post)

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:06 AM

And kelp is not recommended

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chrissy June 22, 2013 at 4:20 AM

I take sea kelp for that very reason. No need to have all the potassium that is in the iodoral. KO is a supplement for nuclear accidents to prevent harm to the thyroid. Kelp is more natural and you are still getting iodine from it. I am a 2x breast cancer survivor.

Chrissy

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Ann Marie Michaels June 22, 2013 at 5:07 AM

Kelp is not recommended by the iodine experts — the amount of iodine is too variable and there is also radiation in a lot of the kelp

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Lynne Farrow June 22, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Chrissy,

Seaweed used to be a miracle food. Then the oceans became a sewer of pesticides, fertilizers and other contaminants.

Unfortunately, kelp (seaweed) has become a poor source of iodine because it sucks up contaminants so easily. The structural mechanism of seaweed which makes it great for taking up iodine and other nutrients from sea water also makes it efficient in taking up toxins.

In my opinion seaweed, dried or fresh, certified clean, or picked from your local ocean, should be considered contaminated unless you personally take it to a lab and have it tested. See http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/seaweed

Also, the iodine in kelp evaporates into the air very quickly, just as it evaporates from iodized salt in a few weeks once opened.

We all love to get our nutrients from whole foods. But when the main food source of iodine has become toxic, it’s time to stand back and reconsider if taking the iodine supplement isn’t safer.

If you are a breast cancer survivor, getting a clean, quantifiable amount of pure iodine is even more important.

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 6:00 AM

Iodine in nursing & during pregnancy is an entirely different subject.

I do know that the iodine doctors have done research on this subject and have discovered that the fetus benefits greatly when mothers are iodine sufficient. Brain IQ is higher, ADD and birth defects are reduced, and mothers milk is fortified with iodine that directly benefits the baby. Infertility problems are even aggravated by iodine deficiency.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any links to forward on these subjects. I will have to start a new chapter in “Iodine Recommended Reading” to include links related to motherhood. The information is in there, but not easily found. I’m entering this new chapter today, and will add to it over time.

Maybe Lynn or Lynne have some links to share with us on this subject.

Grizz

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Liz J. June 22, 2013 at 7:41 AM

When I started taking Iodoral I was helping a friend with her fibromyalgia support group. She had been doing lots of research on Iodine so she had Dr. Flechas fly in to teach our group about iodine supplementation. I had just had my first child 6 months prior and he highly recommended I start taking 50mg daily right away because it would benefit us both and boost her IQ considerably. He said the benefit ourweighed the detox concerns so I went with it. She is now 6 and super smart. We watched closely for detox reactions and I followed the protocol dilligently to keep my detox pathways open. She had no rashes or obvious problems. Others have much stronger detox reactions so maybe I was just lucky. Certainly more research needs to be done before I would recommend others to do that. I just went with my instincts.

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Liz & Pat,

Here is the EXCELLENT Iodine Guide written by Dr. Buist from the Yahoo Iodine Group, still available for free download:
http://steppingstonesliving.com/downloads/

The Yahoo Iodine Group currently has about 7,700 members:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/
There is a WEALTH of information on this site that can be found by searching the threads.

Grizz

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Pat Robinson June 22, 2013 at 6:09 AM

Sea vegetables are an excellent source of iodine. Yogurt, cow’s milk, eggs, and strawberries are very good sources of iodine. Good sources include mozzarella cheese.

Iodine Food Sources: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=69
Sea Vegetables: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=135

I am very comfortable choosing real food sources for my nutrients. [No financial affiliation.] For instance, “Maine Coast Sea Vegetables Wild Atlantic Kombu Kelp” is tested for:

Pesticides
Herbicides
Petroleum Residues
PCBs
Heavy Metals
Microbiological Contaminants
Radioactivity

Testing & Purity: http://www.seaveg.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=21&chapter=1

Pat Robinson

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Pat,

The problem with seafoods & sea veggies is that you can’t get enough iodine to fully detox from the toxins of fluoride, bromide & chlorine.

Detoxing requires the Dr. Brownstein Protocol for at least 1 year, and even more for some people who are highly toxic. Dr. Brownstein recommends 50mg daily of iodoral to detox. He also recommends 50 mg daily maintenance to overcome the new halide toxins entering the body from food & water. The worst source of toxins is Fluoride in water and Bromide in bread & other grain products. Each of these toxins coming into our body kicks out & displaces iodine in our cell receptors for iodine. We live in a sea of these toxins, so it is difficult to avoid them. Our only hope is to take enough iodine daily to displace the toxins coming in on a daily basis. Seafoods cannot perform this on-going detox. Getting 50mg a day from seafoods is impossible.

On the positive side, if you have been eating seafoods then you can start iodine at higher levels than the recommended 1 drop or less of lugols.

Grizz

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Lynne Farrow June 22, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Pat,

I agree with you that there are many ways to improve health.

Unfortunately, relying on seaweed has become an unhealthy way of getting iodine.
People have ended up in the emergency room from eating the wrong seaweed products.

Moreover, the amount of iodine you can get from seaweed is not nearly enough unless you are consuming it five times a day the way the japanese do. Most of the iodine literate doctors agree that 50 mg of iodine is a reasonable dosage.

The sad part of seaweed contamination is that some wonderful and knowledgeable seaweed distributors– “friends of the earth” –are in danger of losing their livlihood as consumers read the scientific literature on seaweed contamination.

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Lynn Razaitis June 22, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Pat
Most dairy products these days do not have iodine unless the farmer is using iodine to sanitize the milking equipment or it’s in the animal’s food. Local food sources might do that but it’s doubtful on commercial dairies. Plus if the animals are fed food sprayed with bromide based pesticides one might be increasing bromide rather than iodine. (or if the animals drink fluoridated water, increasing fluoride).
Strawberries if they aren’t organic are often sprayed with methyl-bromide.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/methyl-bromide-toxicity-what-is-on-your-strawberries.aspx#axzz2WxFMic2J

The amount of iodine that might have been totally adequate in our past will no longer work because of our exposure to bromide and fluoride. It’s not possible to get the levels of iodine needed to protect against bromide from food alone. Lynne Farrow’s book explains this very well.

In terms of seaweed…the northeast coast of Maine and Canada used to have some of cleanest seaweed in the world. Hopefully fallout from Fukushima did not contaminate it. That’s good to see radioactivity is being tested for. But once again getting the amount of iodine needed to push out bromide would be hard from seaweed alone.

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Grizz June 22, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Dr. Buist has a completely new cover letter for her “Yahoo Iodine Group” website since I visited last:

“Iodine and human nutrition. How much iodine do we need? What are the best sources? What happens if we don’t get enough iodine?

Iodine has been effective with hypothyroid and hyperthyroid conditions, goiter, fibrocystic breasts, uterine fibroids, ovarian cysts, brain fog, constipation, obesity, diabetes, cancer, high blood pressure, arrhythmias like atrial fibrillation, and detoxification issues (mercury, perchlorate, fluoride, bromide).

Iodine is in every cell in the body and is essential in pregnancy. It is found in high levels in the thyroid gland, breast, ovaries, prostate, liver, lung, heart, stomach, and adrenal glands.

There is currently a great deal of research on iodine and cancer, including cancer of the breast, colon, lungs, ovaries, pancreas, prostate, stomach, and thyroid.

Some doctors are now using iodine in the treatment of children with down syndrome as well as autism with positive results.

If you an an Iodine Researcher, you may be interested in our subgroup, IodineResearch: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IodineResearch/

About the owner: I am a 13 yr thyroid cancer survivor saved by iodine. Treated with 3 rounds of RAI and still had registering Tg markers. In 2006 when my markers rose my endo recommended external beam radition. I sought the help of Dr. David Brownstein – one of the pioneers in iodine. He placed me on 50 mgs of iodine, detoxed, balanced my hormones, switched me from Synthroid to Armour and started a nutritional balancing program. I removed 11 amalgams and a root canal tooth. Today I am feeling better than I have in years! I am a Naturopathic Doctor Health Coach too. Join us!

To your health!
Stephanie

Her website
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

Also download her excellent “Guide to Iodine” here:
http://steppingstonesliving.com/downloads/

Grizz

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Skye June 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Thank you, Ann Marie! Ordered the book and looking forward to beginning iodine supplementation. : )

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Tiffany June 28, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I always find it interesting how easily that the supplement world dismisses the word ‘synergy’.

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DeAnna July 3, 2013 at 8:00 AM

I agree with the author. It’s a personal choice and great everyone is doing their research. People think you’re ‘crazy’ until it affects them. In today’s severely contaminated world, it is difficult to get the required Iodine (if you’re deficient or body is under attack such as cancers) with simple Kelp that is not contaminated. The Japanese govt protected it’s people by placing most on Iodine after the nuclear blast b/c they knew this. Everyone ran out of Iodoral around that time. I’m thyroidless since I was a baby – mom had thyroid ca, MGM & GMGM all had thyroid ca or goiter so it hits us close to home as being thyroidless my entire life can actually destine you to always talk about the thyroid. It’s why I ultimately became a nurse. So I was doomed at birth b/c my mom was on absolutely no Iodine & on a T4 only med when she had her children. Mom had a partial thyoidectomy w/ RAI with subsequent 2 entirely different breast ca’s – the last one the deadly Her 2 Neu (MDA felt her first breast ca was most likely caused by her thyroid RAI from so long ago). During her chemo for Her 2 Neu 2 years ago, she had 2 nodules pop up on her remaining half thyroid. I was sick of it & told her her she was going holistic so first thing – I put her on 50 mg of Iodoral (I already had her on a slew of other supplemets she needed). MD Anderson did a repeat US at 6 mo and the 2 nodules were completely gone. We are firm believers in Iodine supplementation. I have met Dr. David Brownstein and I must say he’s brilliant, esp about Iodine & the thyroid. Great article! We shared your ariticle!

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Grizz July 14, 2013 at 2:13 AM

IMO, iodine is FAR BETTER than just a cure for breast cancer.

We have cured a woman with TERMINAL cancers. She was sent home to die in home hospice. Doctors had been screwing around with her cancer for THIRTEEN YEARS, and finally gave up when it spread all over her body. She was bed ridden, waiting to die !

IODINE HAD CURED HER IN ONLY 9 MONTHS ! Now she is happy and enjoying life again. Iodine is the Miracle from God.

We have also cured 2 cases of Fibrocystic breasts in our little rural town.
Why iodine is so effective in curing cancers is fully described here, click the index for Cancer
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading

More on iodine:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout

Grizz

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Sarah Nissen September 19, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Ann Marie, I’ve gotten to the root of all my health issues by doing hair mineral analysis. With the help of a practitioner, I discovered I have copper toxicity, low thyroid, levels of lead and mercury in my system, and my ratios of sodium to potassium are off because of the heavy metals. I’m taking supplements specific to my issues, including iodine.

I would highly recommend finding out what your specific needs are by doing a hair mineral analysis and working with a practitioner before spending any more money on random supplements. I work with pamkilleen.com. She is so knowledgeable.

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dave November 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

HI girls the main cause of breast cancer is your bra.

the cure for virtually all cancers is sodium bicarbonate and iodine you then need to cut out dairy products and meat apart from lamb which doesn’t have growth hormones added into it unlike all other meats the last thing you need to do is meditate on getting better a positive mindset is crucial with all this.

and to sarah nissen if you do a 5 day fast your body will push out all the poisons that they add into our food and water you can only drink distilled water while you do this fast good luck.

both of these will work, the cure for the cancer will take 3 weeks to rid your body of the fungus.

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anja November 22, 2013 at 6:42 AM

dave, sadly, your information is antiquated and potentially deadly.

while sodium bicarbonate may be the latest *fad*, it’s actually disastrous for your digestive health. i know far too many people for whom sodium bicarbonate supplementation caused irreversible digestive damage. dr. brownstein, world renowned iodine expert, states that all you need to keep your body properly alkalized against disease are iodine and whole salt. and to *no* add sodium bicarbonate for the aforementioned reasons.

organic meat and dairy do not have growth hormones added.

a 5 day fast for someone so ill could be the end. at that stage adrenals are shot and they need all the nurturing they can get. fasting for 5 days, or even one day, could potentially cause irreversible damage, including death.

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