Q & A: March 13, 2011

by Ann Marie Michaels on March 13, 2011

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Question: Replacing Plastic Freezer Bags and Kombucha While Nursing?

1) I store my veggie scraps in a freezer bag for stock, but I am trying to go plastic free. Can you recommend a way to store them in the freezer without using plastics or aluminum?

2) I am nursing currently, but I would like to start drinking kombucha. I was wondering, since it has detox effects, is it safe to drink while nursing and how much can/should I drink?

– Theresa


1) I’ve been thinking about this myself. I use plastic freezer bags, too. I love the convenience but I don’t love the plastic.

I am personally not comfortable freezing with glass since I worry about the glass breaking. I would be comfortable using the OLD Pyrex… or Pyrex from Europe.

Even though the manufacturer claims that Pyrex is safe for freezing or for high temperatures, I don’t trust them anymore. I’ve had 3 Pyrex glass pans shatter in the past few years, and my Pyrex measuring cup has chipped. The old vintage Pyrex never ever chipped, and never shattered.

According to a thread on Chowhound:

Pyrex in US used to be made of borosilicate glass, now the Pyrex bakeware you see are made with soda lime glass. The Pyrex lab glassware are still made with borosilicate glass.

In short borosilicate glass has a very low thermal expansion coefficient which is why scientists have little problem using these borosilicate lab glassware for chemical reactions. Not to say they will never break, but they are resistant to thermal shock. Soda lime glass is not. Therefore you hear all these US Pyrex bakeware breaking.

I kept saying US Pyrex, because European Pyrex are still made with borosilicate glass.

I do plan to start collecting vintage Pyrex, which you can find on Ebay or at garage sales. And, this summer we are going to Europe, and you can bet I will be lugging back a suitcase full of the real borosilicate glass Pyrex!

I have another idea for freezing things like veggie scraps and chicken bones that doesn’t involve glass: butcher paper. I am planning to get a big roll of butcher paper, the kind you can get at a restaurant supply store. Here’s what it looks like. You can get a dispenser to cut it — although I’m not sure yet where to find those. Oh wait here you go.

I also like butcher paper because you can use it to wrap sandwiches and snacks in for travel. And butcher paper is compostable, unlike wax paper.

The problem with butcher paper is that it’s not ideal for long-term storage in the freezer. Apparently people used to use “freezer paper” which is a plastic-lined paper (similar to wax paper). But freezer paper is not compostable.

I think it would be fine to use butcher paper for chicken feet and veggie scraps that you will be using in the near future. You just need some making tape and a sharpie on hand to always mark what’s inside, along with the date (which I do anyway with my freezer bags).

There is another way to make butcher paper more suitable for long-term storage. I just found this post that explains that there are some kinds of wax paper that are made with natural wax, not plastic. So you could, as the blogger suggests, use an inner layer of wax paper (with natural wax, which would be compostable), and an outer layer of butcher paper. I think that’s a very good solution!

2) Kombucha is safe to drink while pregnant or nursing. It is a traditional fermented food, just like yogurt or sauerkraut.

You only need to worry about “detoxing” if you are very toxic. The good micro flora we have in our gut is responsible for detoxifying the majority of the toxins we ingest and absorb.

What makes you toxic? in my opinion, the number one thing is dental work. Root canals or cavitations caused by wisdom teeth extractions cause the most amount of toxicity (“A zillion times worse than mercury fillings,” according to Hal Huggins.)

Mercury fillings are also very toxic, since they outgas every time you chew. However, the cavitaitons and root canal sites harbor toxic pathogenic bacteria which act like magnets, attracting all the mercury and other heavy metals and holding them in the jaw. Yuck, right?

That said, I would not have dental surgery to remove mercury fillings or root canals, or have your cavitations cleaned out while you are pregnant or nursing. I’d wait until after you are done nursing.

The other major thing that makes you toxic is having a lack of good bacteria. If you don’t have adequate amounts of good flora in your digestive tract, you are not going to be able to properly detoxify.

So, what to do? Wait until after you’re done nursing to start adding probiotics and fermented foods? If you are already depleted of good micro flora, then your breast milk is too, and so is your baby. So I would say it is much more important to start taking probioitcs or eating fermented foods so that you can start giving them to your baby via your breast milk.

So even if you do have a lot of major dental work which is making you toxic, that’s even more reason to get more probiotics into your diet. Not only for your sake, but for your baby’s. Because if you are toxic, your milk is already toxic. Probiotics can only help the baby detoxify.

The only caveat — you may want to go slow if you are very toxic. Start with small amounts of kombucha, other fermented foods, and probiotics and gradually increase over time.

Question: Ways to Use Raw Milk?

I would love to know all the different things to do with the raw milk once you get it (i.e. Making butter? Separating the cream? Can you freeze it? How long does it last, etc.)

And, I would love to know more about recipes and uses for the whey after making yogurt cheese/kefir cheese.

– Amanda


There are lots of ways to use raw milk. I don’t personally like to separate the cream because I like to drink whole milk, not skim milk.

However, if you wanted to, you could separate the cream and use it to make butter, and you could use the skim milk to make buttermilk or yogurt, which you could use for things like marinating chicken — or you could feed the skim milk to pigs (if you’ve got ‘em).

You can also make yogurt, kefir and cheese with your raw milk.

I don’t have time to make butter, so I buy cream and butter separately. Our raw milk is really expensive here in California, so I buy mostly pasteurized grass-fed butter and cheese (although I do buy some of it raw).

You can freeze milk, cream, butter and cheese. Freezing changes the texture slightly in everything except the butter. The milk and cream gets a little clumpy and the cheese gets crumbly. If you grate your cheese first, then freeze it, it’s fine. I don’t mind the slight clumpiness of the milk or cream, because it saves me a lot of driving to buy my milk in bulk just once a month or every 6 weeks — instead of having to go back and forth every week.

My milk tends to keep 1-2 weeks in the fridge.

I use my whey for fermented salsa, sauerkraut, probiotic ketchup and mustard, and mayonnaise. You can even take storebought condiments and make them fermented just by adding a little whey. See my post on how to make 30-second fermented salsa and other condiments.

I also add whey when I’m soaking black beans, oatmeal, and rice.

You can also add whey to smoothies, applesauce, soups, and a variety of other things you want to add more nutrition to.

Here are some more ideas from Jen Allbritton on the Weston A. Price Foundation site:

* Drink it! Drink it straight or mix it in with a fermented beverage or hot tea.
* Freeze whey into ice cubes and blend them into smoothies for a more slushy texture or cool-down a beverage on a hot day.
* Replace a portion of the water used to cook grains.
* Include in soaking water in legumes and grains to improve digestibility (see Nourishing Traditions for details).
* Lacto-ferment almost anything – apples, zucchini, cabbage, cherry chutney, ginger carrots—see Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon and Wild Fermentation by Sandor Ellix Katz.
* Feed to pets – chickens, dogs, cats, they all can benefit from this nourishing liquid.

Whey will keep in the fridge for many months — or you can freeze it for longer.

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Marie March 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM

I’ve shattered several vintage pyrex unfortunately … made me very sad :( I’m not sure it really makes much of a difference. I’ve had much worse luck with the vintage stuff shattering than new pieces.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:38 PM

@Marie How did you shatter it? Are you sure it was real borosilicate glass?

Were you baking at 500 degrees or higher?

Watch this video:



Hannah March 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Ugh, I didn’t like the bit about wisdom tooth cavitations being highly toxic. I got mine out a couple years ago and I have a cavitation in my jaw.
Am I doomed to being “toxic”? Why do they attract mercury and contaminants? Does getting it cleaned out require surgery?
Any additional info is much appreciated!


amy March 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

I recently had 2 root canal teeth removed (in the back), and while they were there they cleaned out a cavitation from a wisdom tooth – only because they were working right there anyway. When I can afford to, I want to get the other 3 cavitations cleaned out, mercury removed, crown replaced. Yes, it requires surgery – they have to open it up & clean it out; the dentist said mine was big enough for her to put her thumb in! 2 books to read are: The Roots of Disease (Kulacz & Levy) and Uninformed Consent (Huggins & Levy).


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM

@Amy Which dentist did you go to to have the work done?


amy March 13, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Nunnaly & Freeman – in Marble Falls, Tx.


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I would REALLY like more info on this also. My health really seemed to decline after having a wisdom tooth pulled!


Brandy @ Afterthoughts March 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM

This makes me wonder: what brand of pasteurized grassfed milk are you using? I have trouble affording the raw milk–I’d love to have a pastured source that is pasteurized. We recently starting using Strauss yogurt for this, but I haven’t seen the Strauss milk in our area…


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I do not buy pasteurized grass-fed milk.

I do buy pasteurized grassfed yogurt and butter.


Soli @ I Believe In Butter March 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

I didn’t know that wisdom tooth extraction being an issue as well. What can be done to “correct” such things, since I recall you mentioning it for root canals? Have my biannual cleaning next weekend and may ask about my fillings too.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:55 PM

You have to have surgery and they go in and clean out the extraction sites.

I plan to write a whole blog post about this.


Soli @ I Believe In Butter March 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM

I’m looking forward to seeing this. I think I had the bleed out method, it was 20 years ago and an old school Italian dentist. Going to be asking about this for certain.


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 7:38 AM

If they used the old method, you might be OK!


Hannah March 14, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I really look forward to a whole post about this. I have decided to make an appointment with the surgeon who did my extractions b/c I am having a little pain and tenderness in my jaw + swollen glands.

He is a conventional oral surgeon so I have no idea what he will say, but I have to start somewhere. I’ve researched and can’t find any holistic dentists in the area that indicate they specialize in cavitation cleaning.

I really want to thank you for bringing this issue up. I didn’t want to hear it at first, but I’ve felt there wasn’t something right at one extraction site for a while now. Thanks for being the catalyst for having this checked out. Much better to deal with it sooner than later!


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:12 PM

VERY ANXIOUSLY awaiting this blog post!


connie March 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Can you make kefir with JUST dry milk? I know it’s not going to be the ideal method, but I am researching for someone in another country where they don’t have a ready dairy source, but do have powdered milk. I know people sometimes add dry milk to their milk for making yogurt, but have no idea if it would be possible to use reconstituted dry milk as an exclusive source for making kefir.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Powdered milk is never recommended. It contains oxidized cholesterol which causes heart disease.


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Any reccomedndations for a substitue. I have a few recipes hat call for it like my grandmas mocha mix and a healthy bisquik recipe????


Carla March 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I’ve never heard of a cavitation before now. How do you know if you have one? I’ve had 3 wisdom teeth extracted as well as a molar that fell apart (all this was at least 15 years ago; I have one impacted wisdom tooth that was left in). Yikes, something else to worry about!


amy March 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM

From my understanding (reading the books I posted above), if you had a wisdom tooth out, you have a cavitation (unless, I am guessing on this part, you were using a dentist that knows about this & could prevent it to begin with, if that is possible). Hope that helps.


Hannah March 13, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Any idea if the problem is solved with a cleaning of the site, or is it potentially an ongoing ordeal?


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:46 PM

A cavitation (hole in the jawbone) develops when there is infection after a wisdom tooth extraction. Apparently this occurs in *most* wisdom tooth extractions.

From what I was told by Annette Fischer, founder of Wilderness Family Naturals (who had the surgery and told me about it,) it is the sealant they use when they extract the wisdom teeth that causes the infection. It locks in the infection. Her husband had also had his wisdom teeth out but I guess his dentist used the old-fashioned way of letting the gums bleed and not using a sealant — he did not have cavitations.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:46 PM


They have to go in and do surgery to clean out the wisdom teeth extraction sites.


WordVixen March 14, 2011 at 4:50 PM

So, does this mean that if you came home with a wad of bloody gauze stuffed in your mouth and had to clamp down on old tea bags for most of the day (to try to reduce the bleeding) that you had the old fashioned method? If so- YAY! :-)

Then again, my wisdom teeth weren’t infected when they were removed. Dad just insisted that I have them out while I was still under his dental insurance.


Irene March 27, 2011 at 8:24 PM

What about oil pulling – does this help remove the toxins?


Marija March 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM

I am thinking that the caffeine is the problem with drinking kombucha while nursing. I’m pretty sure that it affects the baby, at least it seems to contribute to my son’s lack of sleeping if I drink or eat something caffeinated.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM

There isn’t a whole lot of caffeine in kombucha. It’s about double what you would get in a cup of decaf, or half of what you would get in a cup of black tea.

“An 8 ounce cup of Kombucha Tea contains 24 milligrams of caffeine.

Kombucha tea is made from fermenting black tea leaves from a mother culture. In general there is 1/3 to 1/2 the caffeine in kombucha compared with regular tea. This varies due to recipe used and time left to ferment as the caffeine breaks down over time. The number reflects the max amount.”



clabbermouth March 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM

You could also make kombucha with herbal tea. It’s not traditional, and sometimes it takes a little longer, but I’ve done it and it works. The best kombucha I’ve ever had was made with mint, sacred basil, and just one black tea bag for a whole gallon. The mint and sacred basil (same as holy or tulsi basil) were from our garden. Yum!


Hannah March 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM

I’ve doing a little research about the cavitations, for anyone concerned I suggest you do some reading on the internet first to get a basic idea of what’s going on. There is a ton of info if you google “jaw bone cavitations”. If you have had wisdom teeth extracted it seems there’s a good chance cavitations could be present.

I suspect I have a cavitation on my right lower jaw because it was slow to heal from the initial surgery and the glands in my neck occasionally swell on that side. I had a huge wisdom tooth extracted from the site, so it wouldn’t surprise me.
I am researching holistic dentists right now too, hoping i can find someone in my area who is familiar with this problem. As someone who makes less than $14,000 a year this is especially distressing, as this is unlikely to be particularly affordable!


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:50 PM

I am planning to fly to Texas to have the surgery done, because I want to work with the dentist who did Annette Fischer’s surgery (she raved about him, and apparently very few dentists do this sort of work).

It is expensive, and insurance often won’t cover it. Check with your insurance provider, though — maybe they will help you (I could not find anyone who would cover it — especially because I am not currently insured).

I’m probably going to use what’s called (I think) a dental discount card which will allow me to pay it off over a period of months.


amy March 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM

I have had recurring pain in my check for years now, which at times acts like sinus issues, and the dentist thinks when we get the cavitation cleaned out on that side it will be better. So, maybe when you can, Hannah, just get the one done; it’s more economical in the long run to get it all done at once (they put you out for it, which is a chunk of change), but can be awful hard on a tight budget, even trying to pay it out over time. Hal Huggins recommends getting everything done at once.

By the way, Ann Marie, the dentist had me using pickling salt, NOT sea salt – something about Huggins protocol saying it has mercury in it. I used the pickling salt at first, but have switched back to my Real Salt. Also, admonitions against using B12 due to mercury issues (I’m not real clear on this one; need to do more research). I had great success with B12 previous to learning this, so I’m hesitant to give it up, but only take it a couple times a week now as a compromise (and I don’t swish it around in my mouth anymore). Curious on your thoughts about these 2 things.


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 7:40 AM

I have never heard anything about mercury in sea salt. I’d like to see a source on that.

Re: mercury in B12 supplements? Again, sounds odd? Why do you need to take B12 supplements though? If you are eating plenty of red meat and fish you shouldn’t have to take a supplement.


bobcat March 15, 2011 at 3:21 AM

I have heard of problems with B12 and mercury. I believe the problem is that one type of B12 will pull mercury out of wherever it’s being stored in the body (with the injectible form, there is hydroxycobalamin and methylcobalamin, most people use the hydroxy, and I think the methyl is the version that brings the mercury out, but I could be wrong…maybe it’s the hydroxy or both versions. Pretty sure it was just the methyl though)…. Of course bringing out the mercury can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how prepared you are to detox at the time. I have always been told having plenty of pure (not a contaminated brand) chlorella in your system at the time is a good thing.

I would think for the average person, pulling mercury out like that is a bad thing. You don’t want to dislodge a bunch of mercury from one place in your body, only to have it redeposit someplace else, like your brain. I dunno (shrugs).

Despite hearing those warnings, I do take the methyl B12, because it is more readily usable by the body. I assume my doc would not have prescribed it unless he thought I could handle it, and he is familiar with mercury issues. So despite having heard the warnings, I am not too concerned about it, for myself.

With regard to plastic bags, the plastics that are currently considered by most watchdog groups to be safe are #2, #4, and #5. I believe “plastic” bags are #2. So they are safer than plastic water bottles, microwave meal trays, many of the older baby bottles and toys etc, which often contain BPA or other bad stuff. So plastic baggies do not contain BPA or any known bads. Neither does “plastic wrap.” So I am actually comfortable allowing baggies and plastic wrap to touch my food, though I don’t make a habit of it.

I do store stuff in the freezer in Pyrex. So far I haven’t had any problems. I haven’t even checked up on what is in those Pyrex plastic-y lids, so depending on what THAT is, I may be better off covering it with Glad wrap, which is thought to be safe, as I mentioned.

Of course, in the future, we may discover that something is wrong with 2, 4, and 5 (there are fancy names for each of those, but I am using the numbers for simplicity). But right now, those are all safer than the lid on your blender, safer than what your food processor is made of, etc (I believe food processors are #7…I just know I read they are bad). So don’t feel so much guilt over the freezer bags. Just because something looks like plastic….you can’t tell what degree of “bad” it is until you start looking at it’s number. :)


amy March 15, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Thanks for the info, bobcat. The dentist told me a bit about the B12 issue, and was supposed to send me more info on it; but I haven’t gotten it and/or made time to follow up, but I think I found some info on Hal Huggins website at one pt. I was taking B12 (metho.) b/c my blood tests kept showing me b12 “anemic” even tho I was taking lots of b-complex (this had been ongoing for years, BEFORE I began WAPF). I have the “heritage” of b12 issues, so I figured I’d need to take it for life. My hubby told me just to eat liver, which I do try to do once a week now. I can’t afford any testing now, so I don’t know where I’m at, that’s why I still take it some. But after bobcat’s info. I may stop completely, until I can get the dental work completed.

As to the sea salt, I haven’t studied on that either (so many things to do in life, much less all the research) BUT a friend has done some research & sent me some links (haven’t made time to read them yet):
and: http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/redmond.html
Also, I have an article she sent me on the B12 w/Hal Huggins, and I’ll e-mail it directly to you, Ann Marie.


MamaLovey March 22, 2011 at 5:27 AM

We take Royal Jelly for our B12. My autistic daughter has a prescription for B12 injections but I read on google that they could be stabilized in the lab with cyanide! So we just went all natural with her supplements. She is borderline anemic.


D. March 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM

You can use plastic bags for freezing (unless you’re just totally opposed to BUYING plastic rather than just being opposed to USING plastic because of the health dangers). The way I do it is to wrap foods, like my homemade sour cream butter for baking, first in natural parchment paper, then wrap in a layer of natural waxed paper for more protection from freezer burn, then place inside the labeled and dated plastic freezer bags. There are some things I just won’t give up and plastic freezer bags are one of them. I don’t use other plastic very often either. I’m not big on using glass jars in the freezer, and I’ve had no luck with expensive pyrex either, whether it was new or old.


Hannah March 13, 2011 at 4:50 PM

For what it’s worth I always freeze my stock and soup in glass mason jars. I’ve only had one crack in two years. The crack was clean and held together by the frozen liquid and I was able to salvage the broth.
Granted I am very, very careful with them in the freezer.


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I am too nervous to do that!


amy March 13, 2011 at 7:18 PM

I put them in a canning jar box. I know – it takes up a lot of room, but I don’t have more than a box or so at a time (the others go in the top wire racks, and I’m very careful with them). Just don’t re-use jars that AREN’T canning jars – those consistently break (for me, anyway). I also don’t fill them all the way full (there is usually a “freeze line” on the jar), or fully cap them until frozen (I put them in my small freezer a few at a time, from the fridge, then transfer to deep freeze).


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:18 PM

I’ve had too many crack! So thankful I have tea towels so I can at least save my broth!


Mallory March 13, 2011 at 5:32 PM

I have been wanting to get my one mercury filling removed for a few years, but I am concerned for two reasons. First, from what I have read, the process is very dangerous and your body actually could be exposed to way more mercury during removal than if you just left it. Some dentists even recommend doing a lengthy detox (up to 1 year) prior to removal.

Secondly, and most pressing, is that the materials being used to replace mercury don’t seem to be any healthier for the body as they are mostly composite resins, aka plastic. A friend of my who is a dental hygienist also told me you have to get the resin fillings replaced every 5 to 7 years because they wear out.

So, unless you can afford gold fillings, the process and the alternatives just don’t seem to be much better than the mercury. What do you think of all this?


cheeseslave March 13, 2011 at 5:54 PM

You need to find a good dentist who can safely remove your mercury fillings. I have a good dentist here in LA who is a member of the Weston Price Foundation and he removed my mercury fillings.

I’m not sure what he put in place of them — I’d have to ask. Anyway I totally trust him to replace mercury fillings.

His name is Dr. Raymond Silkman DDS.

That said, in the words of Hal Huggins, cavitations and root canals are “a zillion times worse than mercury fillings”.


Mallory March 13, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Oops, I meant to say the detox is done post removal, not prior!


Victoria March 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I have read that you should not drink Kombucha if you have silver amalgams because it will pull mercury out of the fillings. Have you any info on that?


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 7:42 AM

Never heard that

I think the benefits of kombucha would outweigh any risks

That said, I think anyone who wants to be healthy should have their mercury fillings removed as soon as possible. More importantly, they should have their cavitations and root canals cleaned out since those are much worse than fillings.


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Can you explain how to clean out a root canal? I have !!!


Carrie W March 13, 2011 at 6:39 PM

I have been freezing my stock and soup, soured raw milk, you name it in glass jars in the freezer for years and have never had one crack. The trick is to only pour the liquid up to where the neck starts to curve. That allows plenty of room for expansion.

Also, when I buy 10 pastured chickens whole I cut them up for easier storage. I wrap the pieces in butcher paper and THEN place it in a plastic bag which gets reused until it can be used no longer. I would like to find a better plastic free solution for long term freezing but haven’t yet.


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 7:44 AM

I like the simplicity of your method.

Maybe you could try the natural wax paper method with the butcher paper?

I’m going to steer clear of freezing glass. It is just another worry I don’t need. I think I may buy some reusable plastic containers (like Tupperware) that I could use to freeze in. Still plastic, but at least not disposable plastic bags.


jbailey March 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Oh dear! The info on cavitations is rather creeping me out as I have had my wisdom teeth out and my son needs his out this summer. I get real sick to my stomach when I think about stuff like this. I have not ever had a root canal but have very heavy amalgam fillings in my back molars. I’m almost certain that taking them out would necessitate a root canal because there is practically no tooth left. Makes me sick to think about it.
Not sure whether to thank you or hate you for the info! :) :) :)


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM

Try to find a dentist who can remove wisdom teeth the old-fashioned way without the sealant.

Don’t hate me – it’s better to remove these teeth and clean out these cavitation sites than to end up with cancer or heart disease.


Kim March 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

OH WOW! Just asked this question on your FB page. You had your amalgams out? I thought that you should wait up to 18 mos to TTC after removing? And total YUCK about the cavitations! I never had any problems with my wisdoms after they were out, wonder how I can find out if my dentist used a sealant. I was only 21 when I had this done… Why is everything so complicated? AH! thank you, though!


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

It’s probably been 18 months since I had them out.


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Have you noticed any difference in your health?


Theresa March 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Thank you for the answer to my question. The butcher paper is PERFECT for me for veggies, as I already use that for meat (stock and soups I freeze in mason jars with 1 inch headspace.)

I am sad about you other response to me, as I have been wanting to have cavitations cleaned out, but have no money to do so (no insurance)

Is there a way to know if your wisdom teeth were sealed? I had stitches and bit down on gauze. I was spitting blood for several hours… no packing or brushing that I know of. Of all 4 I had removed, none of the wounds themselves bother me, but I suspect issues with my bottom left because a) I occasionally have lymph node swelling on that side and b) the molar closest to that had started to die and “needed a root canal” (I have managed to repair some of it with diet and FCLO with butter oil, but I believe it will need to be pulled someday.)

Thank you for the go ahead however… I have been so afraid of trying it. I only wish I would have fixed this before conceiving…


Hannah March 14, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Your experience sounds just like mine. I had all 4 out, no real issues right after, but one side, my lower right has been a little funny. I too often have swollen lymph nodes on that one side and sometimes it just feels a little funny in the space behind my molar. Right now I am sick with some kind of head cold and I have pain and tenderness on my jaw where the extraction site is. I am making an appointment with the oral surgeon who did the extractions to see what he says. I’ll report back any relevant info.


cheeseslave March 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM


I also have no insurance. So I will either have to earn the money to have the surgery done or find some other way to cut back so I can have it done.

If you go to a reputable dentist — one who has experience with cavitations — they will be able to do an x-ray and tell you if your wisdom teeth excavations have pathogenic bacteria.


ofthec July 19, 2011 at 11:22 PM

How can we find a dentist who has experience with cavitations? Are there some key questions we need to ask. I live in Singapore right now so I’m not sure WPF would be able to help!


Kim March 14, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Theresa, I HEAR you on doing this prior to conceiving! That’s why I cannot wait to hear the Ann Marie’s response on waiting to try (i thought she was waiting to remove her amalgams, but I have not been on in a while!). I don’t think any insurance covers any of this. I just got ballpark quotes in the thousands… : ( And to think, we were trying to save to possibly send my son to a waldorf pre-k/k soon…


bobcat March 15, 2011 at 3:33 AM

Putting this at the bottom just so everyone will see it.

In case everyone misses my longer explanation up top, which is a reply…..here is the summary: plastic baggies do not contain any of the really bad chemicals, to put it bluntly. Same goes for “plastic wrap.” I know it seems to go against logic, but baggies and plastic wrap are safer than some of the more rigid plastics like your food processor’s bowl (based on MY research, simply using plastic types based on number).

2, 4, and 5 are the safe numbers. All the other numbers are suspect, for one reason or another (BPA is 1, for example). I got into this research when looking for something non-metal to brine a turkey in. I figured I’d need a plastic bucket, but I wanted to make sure no scary chemicals would leach. So that got me looking into the different types of plastics, and really educating myself on the differences. I was shocked at what I learned. Some of the things I assumed were bad, were not so bad, and some of the things I assumed were low-risk, had worse chemicals in them.

If you check out the info on Glad plastic wrap, the manufacturers claim it isn’t even truly a “plastic,” and I never believed that….until I learned about the different types through my own research, and really, it turns out “plastic wrap” is one of the safest. I always had worries about my Mr Coffee coffeemaker too, but now that I know it’s 5, I’m not feeling so guilty.

So I encourage everyone to read up!


bobcat March 15, 2011 at 3:39 AM

Sorry, I think the main BPA plastic is 7, not 1. Whops.

Anyways…..please do your own research. The only take away I “took away” was that 2, 4, 5 are okay, everything else, bad. Then I went through everything I use, both rigid and soft, and memorized whether it was “good” or “bad,” so you’ll have to do that for the exact products you are using. Some things you just need to google, like blenders and food processors.


D. March 16, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Gerber baby foods come in #7 plastic containers! Can you believe it? I try to tell all the young mothers not to put them in the microwave, but to always put the food into a glass bowl or something first. Or to only buy the baby food in jars to begin with. I doubt that they listen, but I do try! Gerber should NOT be allowed to get away with this, but the USA seems to be on a free-for-all basis these days. Anything goes and we’ll pay later, as though later will never arrive.


bobcat March 15, 2011 at 3:46 AM

Sorry…one more update. What I am reading varies, but one author is claiming that if you use baggies/wrap, stick with Glad, Ziploc, or Saran brand. Avoid generics, since getting the exact info on them may be difficult.

There are environmental hazards to using any plastic, so that is a concern. Landfills, etc. In this discussion, I’m speaking strictly of health effects from leaching of the chemical into food.

1 is considered safe by many, but for some reason, I eliminated it from my “good” list after reading one point of dissent, somewhere on the web. Avoid 3, 6, and 7.


Tara March 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I’m loving the Q & A Posts. Thanks so much for them!


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