Q & A: November 27, 2011

by Ann Marie Michaels on November 27, 2011

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1. Question: Can Traditional Nutrition Heal Fybromialgia?


Hi Ann Marie,

How are you ? Your website is amazing and very helpful to me.

Can traditional nutrition heal fibromyalgia? What is important to eat or avoid?

Thanks
Martine

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I’m not a doctor and can’t advise anyone on how to treat disease.

That said, I’ve read about people with fibromyalgia who benefit greatly from doing the GAPS Diet. I followed a very similar diet when I was in my 20s and reversed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. See Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride’s book, Gut and Psychology Syndrome.

I’d also incorporate coconut oil, coconut milk and coconut into your diet. Read Bruce Fife’s book, Coconut Cures: Preventing and Treating Common Health Problems with Coconut. He talks about fibromyalgia in the book.

Another thing you might look into is magnesium. There’s a whole chapter on chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia in Carolyn Dean’s book, The Magnesium Miracle.

I’ve also heard of people having great results with fibromyalgia by doing “earthing”. I’d recommend reading Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever? I am reading it now. I have been sleeping on an earthing half sheet for nearly a week now and I’m blown away at how much better I have been sleeping and how great I feel. I’m going to be doing a post on this very soon.

You can find earthing products on my resources page. You can buy earthing sheets or mats to “ground” yourself indoors. You can also just get out and walk barefoot on grass or dirt, or wear leather soled shoes. I’m looking to buy some leather soled moccasins so I can start walking everyday for the health benefits.

I hope some of these things help you. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted.

2. Question: Information On Smoke Points For Cooking Oils?

When we first got into health, we started cooking with olive oil. Then I read somewhere that olive oil has a low smoke point and that by cooking with in (like making stir frys and such), I was hydrogenation the oil.

Then we read about coconut oil and how great it was for high heat cooking. So we have been using that.

My father-in-law was making popcorn with olive oil and I told him that olive oil should not be used with high heat to use coconut oil. He said coconut oil had a lower smoke point.

So I looked it up. Olive oil has a smoke point of up to 450F depending on the type of olive oil. But coconut oil had a smoke point of 320F. I am so confused!!

Why would coconut oil, which is being touted as great for high heat cooking (which I have been making my popcorn with ever since) have such a low smoke point? And what exactly does smoke point mean and is it important? I had been taught smoke point is the point where you being to hydrogenate an oil. Is that wrong?

Thanks for the help,
Paula

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You don’t need to worry so much about smoke points. If the oil you use starts to burn and smoke, the heat is too high.

I think maybe you are confusing smoke point with hydrogenated oils.

According to WiseGeek:

Oils have been hydrogenated for many decades, to prolong their shelf life and make the oils more stable. Hydrogenated oil is oil in which the essential fatty acids have been converted to a different form chemically, which has several effects. Hydrogenated oil is far more shelf stable, and will not go rancid as quickly as untreated oil. It also has a higher melting point, and is often used in frying and pastries for this reason. When hydrogenated, the chemical structure of the oil is changed, which scientists in the 1990s began to realize could result in negative health effects.

Hydrogenated oil is made by forcing hydrogen gas into oil at high pressure. Both animal and vegetable fats can be and are hydrogenated. In general, the more solid the oil is, the more hydrogenated it is. Two common examples of hydrogenated oil are Crisco and margarine.

Hydrogenated oils should be avoided at all costs. You can read more about how we’ve been hoodwinked into eating hydrogenated oils in this article: The Oiling of America.

Olive oil is fine for making popcorn. That said, I don’t personally cook with olive oil because I think coconut oil is a better choice, not because of the smoke point but because coconut oil has so many other health benefits. I typically use olive oil only for salad dressings and dips: vinaigrette, mayonnaise, pesto, hummus, etc.

I highly recommend Bruce Fife’s book, Coconut Cures: Preventing and Treating Common Health Problems with Coconut. I swear, after you read that book, you’ll start cooking everything in coconut oil!

3. Question: Suggestions About Using A Dentist For Jaw Expansion?

I live in San Antonio & we’d like to begin jaw expansion for my 2 eldest children ages 5 & 6. We could put the money down if we knew we were staying in SA long term but my husband loses his job at the end of the year. So, when he begins sending resumes all over the country, we’d like to isolate to those cities that have orthodontic dentist who believe in this procedure. (it may be very common & if so, please tell me so, but the dentist here made it seem very rare.)

A girlfriend of mine who follows your Facebook remembered that you mentioned dentists in LA & Las Vegas who do this early procedure & so, I’d love to know the names of these dentist AND if you know of other ways to search for other dentists elsewhere. I have absolutely no idea how to begin looking all over the country… Large cities only since he’s a software architect.

Thanks!
Janet

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I have to do this with my daughter, too. Her bottom jaw is fine, nice and wide, but her top jaw is too narrow and her teeth are not aligned correctly. You want to get your kids in for treatment as early as 4 or 5.

I plan to take her to see Dr. Dean Howell. He is not cheap but from what I have researched, he is one of the very best. I figure we only get this chance once so I want the best for her. We live in Las Vegas but it will be easy for us to travel to Los Angeles for appointments. The appointments with Dr. Howell are every other month. I plan to write a post about our experience with this in the spring.

I listened to Dr. Howell’s lecture at last year’s Wise Traditions conference and I was very impressed. You can order Dr. Howell’s lecture here: Neuro-Cranial Restructuring – Dean Howell, ND

Dr. Howell has a technique he uses to expand the skull. He takes a small balloon and partially inflates it inside then nasal cavity. This works not only for children, but also for adults, as the plates in the skull are not fused together and can expand. In addition to the balloon, he also does different kinds of body work and spine/cranial manipulation. He also uses the Homeoblock appliance and/or a helmet for people who need them.

You can see the results of the Homeoblock here. Watch on the video how the woman’s face how her eyes actually get bigger. Also, watch how her lips get plumper. You can see that she becomes a lot more attractive. Also, watch the video on the right to see how the shape of the jaw changes and the teeth become straighter — even in an adult!

Dr. Howell treats patients in Los Angeles, Seattle, Boulder, CO, New York City, San Diego, Palm Springs, and London. Here is a webpage with his schedule.

Dr. Howell isn’t the only person out there… There are lots of other dentists and doctors to work with and Dr. Howell trains a lot of doctors. Here’s a comprehensive list of biological/holistic dentists. You could also contact Dr. Howell’s office and find someone close to you (or wherever you plan to be).

4. Question: Recommended Serving Of Grains Per Day/Week?

Hi Ann Marie,

How many servings of grains per week is healthy? Is it fine to consume 1-2 servings of grains per day? If it helps, my grandparents originated from the Mediterranean region.

Thank you,
Erica

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Everyone is different. Some people do well on a diet including whole grains. Others can’t tolerate grains at all, or very little.

Dr. Weston Price studied people who ate grains pretty much with every meal. The Swiss villagers he visited are a good example. Their diet was comprised of about 50% sourdough rye bread.

Of course, I would stick with whole grains, properly soaked and/or sprouted.

5. Question: How To Cook Masa Harina?


Hi!

This will be a quick question! I just bought a bag of masa harina (corn flour soaked in lime), but I have no idea how to cook with it. I’ve heard about tamale, and it looks great! I would for sure be interested in knowing more about it for sure!

Also, I was wondering if I could substitute the yellow cornmeal I normally use to make polenta for the Masa harina ?

(Excuse my poor English; my maternal language is French.)

Thank you!
Chloé

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Hi, Chloé

Your English is fine!

Here is my recipe for tamales. Tamales are traditionally made during the holiday season so it’s a great time to try making them. I’ll also be posting a recipe for Sprouted Polenta within the next week or two. You can also use corn flour or masa harina to make corn tortillas. Here’s my recipe for homemade corn tortillas. I’m also crazy about this recipe for Sprouted Cornbread.

Masa harina and corn flour are not the same thing. Masa harina is soaked in lime water. As far as I know, corn flour is not soaked in lime. It is necessary to soak corn in lime water (also called cal). If you eat unsoaked corn flour, the anti-nutrients in the corn will block vitamins and minerals. This is what caused the pellagra epidemic in the American South.

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In the early 1900s, for example, in the American South, people were using corn more frequently in their cooking for corn breads, corn grits, and the like. However, unlike our neighbors south of the border who were soaking grains, Americans were not soaking it. As a result, we saw an epidemic of Pellagra — 100,000 afflicted in 1916. Source

Click here to read more about the importance of soaking corn and other grains: Soaking Grains: A Traditional Practice

There are two problems with modern masa harina. (1) Unless it says it’s organic, it’s likely to be genetically modified. You definitely want to avoid GMO foods. So if you buy masa harina, make sure it’s organic. (2) Even if it is organic, most store-bought masa harina is not soaked very long. Instead of soaking the corn for the traditional 1-2 weeks, the corn is typically only soaked for a very short period of time. I was told by one manufacturer that the only soak the corn for 30 minutes. This is not sufficient to adequately remove the anti-nutrients.

There are a few different ways to buy and prepare corn flour. (1) You can buy whole dent corn and soak it yourself in lime water (cal) for 1-2 weeks. Here’s my tutorial on how to soak whole corn. (2) You can buy organic ground corn flour and soak it in lime water overnight (store the corn flour in the freezer or fridge). (3) You can buy sprouted corn flour online. This is the best choice if you don’t have a lot of time to make corn flour from scratch.

In my opinion, options 1 and 3 work the best and taste the freshest. I typically use option # 3 because it’s so easy. I just store my sprouted corn flour in the freezer. I’m looking forward to making tamales for Christmas!

However, if you are not in the US, you can’t buy sprouted corn flour. I am not sure but I think Peggy from To Your Health Sprouted Flour is the only one making it. I store mine in the freezer.

Visit my resources page for where to buy organic sprouted corn flour.

6. Question: Recommendations For A Juicer? / Opinion About Using Other Stocks?


Hi Ann Marie,

I’m new to this real food thing, and I have a few basic questions:

1) I went to your Amazon store but didn’t see a juicer listed — and I can’t afford a Vitamix. Any other recommendations for a juicer, or is there a reason you don’t juice?

2) I’ve read a ton about chicken, fish and beef stock… but haven’t read anything about pork or buffalo or other types of stock. Is there a reason you (and other real foodies) mostly only use beef, chicken and fish?

Thanks for your fantastic blog!

N.B.

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We really should juice as my husband is on GAPS and it really helps you detoxify. However he is willing to do coffee enemas so he’s doing that now. Juicing does take a lot of work and we’ve been super busy lately with moving. Plus, the juicers we have are packed away somewhere.

There are two juicers I recommend in addition to the Vita-Mix: (1) Jack LaLanne JLPJB Power Juicer Juicing Machine and (2) Champion Commercial Juicer G5-PG-710.

I have both juicers and they both work great; however, there are pros and cons to each. The Jack LaLanne is cheaper, so if you are on a budget, that might be the best way to go. I love the Jack LaLanne but it does take a bit of work to clean up as there are a bunch of different pieces. It’s very easy to use, though, and I like it. The Champion has fewer parts to clean. Also, if you eat grains or plan to in the future, you can get a Champion Juicer Grain Mill Attachment. They are not very expensive so it’s a good way to go instead of buying a separate grain mill.

Most people make chicken and beef stock because it’s easy to get chicken and beef bones. It’s also relatively easy to get fish bones. It’s not as common to find pork bones, since most people do not buy whole pigs, and we typically buy boneless cuts of pork. I save my pork bones, however, whenever I buy a bone-in pork butt or similar cut. You can use pork bones to add to beans or stews for more flavor or nutrition. Or you can save enough pork bones and make pork stock. Pork stock is very common in many cultures including China, parts of Japan (Okinawa for example), South and Central America, and Spain.

Similarly, if you buy whole lambs or have a lot of lamb bones saved up — the same goes with bison, elk, venison, moose, etc. — you can make stock.

7. Question: Vitamin A While Pregnant and Trying to Conceive?


Hello Ann Marie,

I’m trying to get pregnant and I’m wondering about liver and cod liver oil. Pregnant women are told by doctors and midwives not to consume these things because of the vitamin A. However, from reading your blog I can tell that this is definitely something y’all (and all the Sally Fallon world) advocates for pregnancy (and pre-pregnancy). Do you have info about this, or can you point me in the direction of info?

Thank you,
Jenni

Answer

I do not listen to what most doctors say about nutrition. Most doctors have no training in nutrition whatsoever. Midwives and naturopaths are also often wrong. (I have a friend who drinks soy milk because her naturopath recommends it. Don’t get me started on soy milk — it’s a health hazard!)

My mother-in-law listened to her doctor when my husband was a baby. She only breastfed for several weeks, which was actually longer than most women back then breastfed (doctors typically recommended baby formula from birth.) The doctor said he was “growing too fast” and told her to stop feeding him chicken livers and whole milk. So she put him on skim milk. As a result, he has a very narrow palate, had to have braces and still wears glasses, and sleeps with a sleep apnea machine.

My mom didn’t listen to the doctors when I was a baby. She ate grass-fed ice cream every day when I was in utero. The doctors told her to use baby formula but she insisted on breastfeeding me. I have straight teeth and never needed braces or glasses.

The people Dr. Weston Price studied consumed TEN times more vitamin A (as well as vitamins D and K2) than the people of his time (1940s). Considering that people in the 1940s ate a lot more pastured lard, grass-fed butter and cream, pastured eggs, grass-fed cheese, cod liver oil, and liver and other organ meats than we do now, really don’t think you have to worry about getting too much vitamin A.

Weston Price considered the fat-soluble vitamins, especially vitamin A, to be the catalysts on which all other biological processes depend. Efficient mineral uptake and utilization of water-soluble vitamins require sufficient vitamin A in the diet. His research demonstrated that generous amounts of vitamin A insure healthy reproduction and offspring with attractive wide faces, straight teeth and strong sturdy bodies. He discovered that healthy primitives especially value vitamin-A-rich foods for growing children and pregnant mothers. The tenfold disparity that Price discovered between primitive diets and the American diet in the 1940s is almost certainly greater today as Americans have forsworn butter and cod liver oil for empty, processed polyunsaturates. (Source)

For more about the importance of vitamin A see this article on the Weston A. Price Foundation website: Vitamin A Saga.

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Meagan November 27, 2011 at 8:50 AM

AnneMarie – I want to be like YOUR mom one day and eat grass-fed ice cream everyday when I am pregnant. LOVE that!!

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Martha November 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM

About the vitamin A, it’s synthetic vitamin a that causes birth defects not natural vitamin A. Just ditch the prenatals if you’re taking them.

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Thanks, Martha! That is correct and I forgot to say that.

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Bonny November 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM

Love your Q&A–thanks!

Continuing the pregnancy/vitamin A question, I am 7 weeks pregnant, have been eating traditionally for less than a year (about 9 months), and have been taking FCLO/BO for most of that time. I read that Sally Fallon does not recommend prenatal vitamins but instead getting all your nutrients from whole foods, but my hubby was nervous about me not taking any prenatal vitamin at all. So I found a prenatal made entirely from cultured whole foods and probiotics (and fermented soy–any cause for concern there since it’s fermented?). I will continue to take FCLO/BO, but am not sure how to make sure I’m getting enough vit A without getting too much between the two sources (FCLO and prenatal). I checked the recommended daily dosage for pregnant and nursing women on the WAPF website, and have figured out how not to exceed that between the two. But the FCLO is true Vitamin A, while the prenatal is from plant foods. Any thoughts on how to make sure I’m getting enough without getting too much? Am I worrying too much about this?

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Beth November 27, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Bonny, I’d swap your cultured whole foods vitamins for pasture-raised liver! I think liver is nature’s original vitamin pill — it’s a powerhouse of nutrition. Eat even just a little pate every day while pregnant, and more if you can. Other organ meats are terrific, too, as are raw, grassfed milk and dairy products, if you can get them. From what I understand, even small amounts of soy can be disruptive to hormones. Yes, some of the anti-nutrients will be improved or neutralized by culturing, but perhaps not all.

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM

I agree!

Ideally you want to eat 3-4 oz of liver once or twice per week. If you don’t like liverwurst or pate, you can cut the liver up into small pill-sized pieces, freeze them, and then just swallow your “pills” each day.

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Bonny November 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Thanks, Beth and Cheeseslave, for the advice!

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Erica November 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Hi Ann Marie,

Is the Homeoblock or other palatal expansion devices enough, or do people also need the manipulation techniques that Dr. Howell uses?

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM

I really don’t know. I want to go to Dr. Howell and see what he recommends. He uses different things depending on the person.

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Anna November 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM

To Janet: I live in LA and I took my 3 year old (because bottom 2 and lower 2 front teeth are a bit crowded) to Dr. Hang at Face Focused who focuses on the face development. He does free consultations for children under 18. He is supposed to be one of the best and he is very familiar with WAPF. Here is his website, he has a lot of information on there: http://www.facefocused.com

We went in for the free consultation and I was very impressed. He spent about an hour with my son and takes all kinds of pictures and measurements to see if the face, palet etc is developing in the right way. Because of my son’s age he recommended we come back in about a year. He was very pleased that we followed the WAPF diet. People from all over the country seem to come to him, in the waiting room there were people who had flown in from other cities that day. Anyway, check out his website, there is A LOT of information on there that I think you’d find helpful.

Another dentist/orthodontist (she does both) I recommend in LA who also focuses on the whole oral posture and face development is Dr. Sami. Here is her website: http://www.happykidsdentalplanet.com She was amazing too and leans towards the “holistic” side. This is where I took my son for his first dental check up. She recommended we see a Cranial Osteopath to correct some “birth trauma” caused by forceps being used when he was born. She could feel in his head where the forceps had been placed and were creating a pressure. So I took my son to a cranial osteopath, not one she recommended but someone closer to my house. I didn’t tell him her diagnosis because I wanted to see what he had to say for himself and he ended up feeling the same thing she had felt and it only required 4 treatments to correct because usually children under 12 are very easy to treat in a few treatments.

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Thank you, Anna! Good recommendations.

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Mike Stewart December 27, 2011 at 4:40 AM

Hello Janet,

I read your story behind the olive oil thing and for me its clear now that the heat just needs to be regulated when cooking. You’re definitely a Doctor at the same time a Chef in my opinion. :)

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Adrienne @ Whole New Mom November 27, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Thanks for all this info! I found several things of interest to me:

1. I made corn bread for Thanksgiving, but did not soak it. My husband complained that he had poor digestion all week. What do you think about eating popcorn (I don’t know how one would soak popcorn!)?

2. Regarding fibromyalgia, I am under the care of a woman who has helped me a great deal with heavy metals and chronic fatigue and what I think may be fibromyalgia. I would be happy to talk w/ the person who emailed you the question. She may contact me at wholenewmom at gmail dot com. I get nothing from referring people to her and she has told me numerous times that fibromyalgia sufferers have a great deal of metals built up. She also follows a WAPF friendly diet recommendations.

I know what pain this can cause and hope I can help.

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:23 PM

@Adrienne

Yes, it’s likely that your husband’s discomfort was caused by the unsoaked corn.

I think popcorn is OK occasionally but I wouldn’t eat it every day.

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Oh and yes it’s true — heavy metals do play a big role in fibromyalgia from what I understand. Thank you for offering your advice!

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Susan November 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM

Ann Marie-
Now that we are real foodies in my house, we realize that we will need to purchase a food processor. So I started searching on Amazon and became overwhelmed by all the comments. People who had their Cuisinart for years, and then updated, now hate the newer machines that are made in China. They say they are poorly made and the company readily admits that the machines are made with PCBs. I looked at the other brands available and it didn’t seem like those people were any happier. Apparently the machines of yesteryear were the true processing horses.

I was hoping you could tell me what kind of processor you have -or suggest. This will be a big financial hit and I don’t want to be dissapointed. Thanks!

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Hi, Susan,

I have a Cuisinart food processor and I love it. I’ve had mine since 1997 and it’s still going strong. The lid just got broken but those are easy to replace.

I’m not sure when they started making the “newer ones”. Is 1997 considered new? Mine works fine.

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Susan November 27, 2011 at 7:48 PM

You probably have one that was made in France. From my research, the ones made in China (surprise, surprise) aren’t built as well. I don’t know what year things were switched to China, but from the reviews I’ve seen, people who owned an older one for years sure regretted upgrading when they really didn’t need or have to. They just thought it was time. So hold on to yours because it sounds like you have a gem!

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Julie D. November 27, 2011 at 9:42 PM

They have been made in China since the early 90s but I think they still work just fine. But get the only with the classic design.

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Julie D. November 27, 2011 at 9:43 PM

I meant “one” not “only”.

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Amy November 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Hi Ann Marie! I LOVE your weekly Q&A, its awesome.

To Martine – I know how debilitating and painful fibromyalgia can be, I’ve had it myself for almost 5 years. I’m getting better using the GAPS diet, but the road to recovery can be long, lonely and at times, very confusing. I was at the Wise Traditions conference in Dallas and was blessed to be able to speak privately with Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride about recovery from fibromyalgia and learned that there often things that patients need to do in addition to the GAPS diet to recover completely from fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. The other comment from Adrienne reaffirms one of the things Dr. Campbell-McBride said – we need to detox from heavy metals. I’ve recently started a blog about my own recovery in hopes of helping others by sharing my story. You can see it here: http://www.rebel-healing.com. I’ll be blogging about all the things that we try to help me fully recover from this horrible illness and talk about what worked for me and what didn’t.

To N.B. – I would highly recommend looking into the Hurom Slow Juicer. I’ve been on GAPS for 2 years and have been juicing almost everyday and I recommend this juicer very highly! It does not heat the juice because it goes slow, but most importantly, it is small and easy to clean which is essential if you are going to juice often!

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Hi, Amy!

I’m so happy to see that you are blogging! I’m going to go click over and read your blog now. It looks great!

I was so happy to see you at the Wise Traditions conference — you look SO much better than the last time I saw you in LA. So happy for you!

And I’m sorry I wasn’t able to corral the bloggers for you sooner — things were so hectic that day!

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Rachael November 27, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Thanks for the information on expanding the palate. We need to start this process soon with our daughter and I had no idea where to begin!

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Baffled November 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

I just bought my first juicer and I’m very happy with it. I have a Breville JE98XL Juicer which runs about $150 in the US. It is easy to set up, break down and clean. Several of the parts are dishwasher safe. Hints for cleanup: 1) line the pulp bin with an empty produce bag to catch the bits and 2) don’t let the parts sit and get dry and crusty. If you clean it right after using you can just rinse everything under water.

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cheeseslave November 28, 2011 at 6:34 AM

What a great idea about lining the pulp bin with a plastic bag!

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Bonnie November 27, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Re: Question #7, I applaud your answer and would like to make a quick addendum necessary for the mother-to-be: SYNTHETIC vitamin A (the type you get in “normal” caplets from the vitamin store, rather than cod liver oil) is a whole different beast. It is toxic in moderate amounts, and should not be over consumed by anyone who expects to be expecting :)

Ok? So, your doctor is right about steering clear of the commercial supplement “vitamin A.” It’s f*ing dangerous.

(fish oil is a blood thinner, though, so do at least let your doctor know you’re taking it, because it may affect certain medical procedures/surgeries).

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cheeseslave November 28, 2011 at 7:14 AM

Good points, Bonnie! Thank you!

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KAL November 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Hi Cheeseslave,

The really good news is you most likely never had myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome which is a severe neurological disease for which there is no cure or reversal. I’m glad you didn’t. There is no cure for fibromyalgia either although magnesium does play a role in ATP and may make a small difference in energy levels for some patients.

Remember, symptom relief in any disease isn’t the same thing as a cure or reversal, but most of the things you list won’t harm patients. Patients should always discuss any supplements or nutritional changes with their physician first.

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Anna November 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM

???

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cheeseslave November 27, 2011 at 9:34 PM

@KAL

“Argue for your limitations and their yours.” – Richard Bach

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KAL November 28, 2011 at 5:53 AM

@ Anna “Question: Can Traditional Nutrition Heal Fybromialgia (Fibromyalgia)?”
The short answer: No

@Cheeseslave

I believe you meant to refer to this quote:
“Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they’re yours.”
Richard Bach

Yes, belief coupled with the equivalent of a “sugar pill” is powerful, however the limitations are imposed by the science itself thus far not myself or any other person. You can’t wish science into being. If you could no one would ever have a disease.

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cheeseslave November 28, 2011 at 7:05 AM

@KAL Wow, somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning.

Look, if you want to believe that fibromyalgia can never be cured, that’s your prerogative. I don’t personally believe that anything is incurable.

And by the way, I never said anything in my post about CURING fibromyalgia. I just said I know of people who have had good results.

I also said, “I’m not a doctor and can’t advise anyone on how to treat disease.”

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KAL November 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM

Actually I didn’t wake up on the wrong side of any bed. You just don’t like being corrected and rather than gracefully accept that you were wrong you launch an attack on the person who pointed it out.

But, if you are going to give medical “advice” then you need to be accurate whether it is the spelling of a condition, a quote, or science.

And I hate to break it to you, but there is no scientific evidence to back your belief that nothing is incurable.

And yes, it is extremely clear that you are not a physician even without the disclaimer. But, legally, that disclaimer doesn’t get you off the hook if you advocate for quackery that harms people following your advice. Just sayin’.

As I said, that isn’t the case with your reply on fibromyalgia, although you are clearly uninformed, but given your attitude sooner or later it is a distinct possibility.

Caveat emptor.

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Susan November 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM

@Kal-
I’m sorry, but I just have to say something because I’m certain Ann Marie is too much of a lady to argue with you any further.

I don’t believe that anyone here sees this blog as anything more than a wonderful resource for information. I highly doubt that the person who asked Ann Marie if she could attain healing through nutrition was seeking to be cured. No where in the answer did Ann Marie even hint towards a cure. She said she had heard/read about the amazing benefits of relief through nutrition.

The internet is filled with all sorts of info. If you don’t like the info here, then move on. Find one with like-minded people. There are many of us who enjoy -and look forward to- Ann Marie’s advice. The info she has shared has helped me tremendously with my adrenal fatigue. Two years ago I was ordered to bed, or I would have a heart attack, my adrenals were so shot. Through nutrition, I get stronger everyday. But I have come the furthest in the past 3 months since I found her blog and have tried the many things she has suggested that worked for her own healing of adrenal issues. Her blog works for me and that is why I come here.

As far as fibromylagia goes, I have seen someone recover to about 95%. After listening to doctors for 10 years and taking a boat-load of pills all day long, I encouraged my friend to seek out bio-identical hormones. Within days of starting estrogen, she was out of bed, within weeks her husband called to thank me for giving him his wife back. They were so entrenched in the doctors lines of, “There is nothing we can do, take more Oxycontin,” that they didn’t believe anything else could help. She believes further healing came from eating real food.

I don’t know why you are so angry and why you would want to attack Ann Marie, but as someone who believes she rocks the world, please for the sake of keeping things on her blog lighthearted and informative, please move on and let those of us who appreciate her do so in peace.

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Beth November 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Thank you, Susan, for your eloquent response. Yes, let’s steer away from anger and harshness and embrace healing and the power of sharing useful information.

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