Q & A: October 28, 2012

by Ann Marie Michaels on October 28, 2012



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1. Question: Why Should I Vote Yes on California’s Prop 37?

Hi, I was planning on voting yes on Prop 37, but received some info (click here to view the PDF) from a friend that says we should be voting no.

I would love your opinion on why we should vote yes…

Thanks!

Answer

First of all, I googled Laurie C. Dolan, Ph.D. who is the author of the PDF. She works for the Burdock Group, which is a consulting firm that helps companies in the process of getting the FDA to approve a new foods and dietary supplements.

You can find a link to Dolan’s CV here.

Take a look at some of the things she does for the Burdock Group:

  • Help clients obtain regulatory clearance for new food and cosmetic ingredients, devices and dietary supplements.
  • Prepare New Dietary Ingredient and GRAS Notifications for submission to FDA.
  • Represent clients in presentations to FDA and stakeholders.

The Burdock Group website does not list their clients, I did a little searching and found a link to a 2007 safety evaluation on aspartame conducted by the Burdock Group. The evaluation was funded by Ajinomoto, the largest manufacturer of aspartame, which is a GMO food.

Gee, you think she might be a little biased?

There are many flaws in this PDF. Let’s walk through them, shall we?

According to Dolan:

“If passed, the law would take effect July, 2014. Adoption of the law would require the relabeling of tens of thousands of common grocery products if they contain any genetically engineered ingredients.”

This makes it sound like food producers would have to go to a lot of trouble to produce new labels. They redesign and print new labels all the time. And according to an Emory University study (download it here) that shows that labeling GMOs would cost consumers less than $1 per year per person.

Dolan argues: “A new economic study shows that Proposition 37 would increase the cost of a typical family’s grocery bill by an average of $350-$400 per year.”

She’s quoting a study that was paid for by the opposition (No on Prop 37), and was funded by Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Syngenta, and other chemical and big food corporations. This is debunked in the Emory University study I cited above (download it here).

Bottom line: You are being lied to.

These people are being paid lots and lots of money from the likes of Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Sygenta, et al.

Just because someone says something doesn’t make it true. Make them prove it. Ask for the evidence. And ask who’s lining their pockets.

2. Question: Problems with GAPS Diet

Hi! And thanks for this interesting series…

Here’s my question:

From birth until age 30, I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian –- a “healthy” vegetarian who ate tons of homemade food, whole grains, vegetables, etc. But my oldest son was sick and getting sicker, and by 2010 when he was six, he was incredibly anorexic and slipping into an autistic haze.

A modified GAPS protocol is absolutely and amazingly helping – -but although things are SO so so much better (it’s been 2.5 years), my son is so fragile that he still has months (like this past) when anything sweet/starchy/fibrous will precipitate diarrhea. My middle child, meanwhile, is constipated and having a terrible lip rash and REALLY wants to stop bedwetting. At the same time, my husband’s digestive system always feels inflamed, and his autoimmune symptoms are not really abating. Additionally, his face is inflamed and peeling, and he is so incredibly not-hungry, like it’s masked. This has been going on since before GAPS, and really never got better at all –- the result is almost anorexic, except he is dying to gain weight and tries to eat more, with no success.

I wonder if maybe my husband’s gut could handle more carbs at this point, and maybe needs them?? I’m curious about RRARFing. But WHY does it work?? This is what my tired brain can’t understand.

I still don’t get why it would somehow be GOOD to go back to a low-fat, high-carb, low-protein diet, which is what I was doing for my whole life and my husband was doing for the 14 years he was with me before GAPS. It does seem like we need to change up some things, though…

Can you shed light on this?

Regards,
Sarabeth

Answer

Here’s the real secret to GAPS: Probiotics.

Everyone gets hung up on the food restrictions but that’s not really what it’s about. It’s also not about low carb or high carb.

YES, it is helpful and even necessary to avoid foods you cannot digest — until you can digest them again. But the reason you cannot digest them is because you don’t have adequate good gut flora. So it’s not enough to just avoid foods. You have to build up the good bacteria in your gut. And if you are not doing that fast enough/aggressively enough, or if you are using probiotics that do not work, you won’t see results.

You’ve been on GAPS for 2.5 years. Which probiotic have you been taking? There are only 2 or 3 I know on the market that actually work at all. If you’re not taking any probiotic, or you’re not taking one of the ones that work, that’s most likely your problem.

Do you need to avoid some foods a la GAPS? Yes, if you cannot digest them. This is determined during the Introduction Diet (initial elimination diet, and subsequent trials with foods you avoided). But introducing the right probiotics and continually increasing them is the most important thing.

I myself only gave up grains for about a month on the elimination diet. After that I only avoided gluten and sugar for two years — those were the only things I could not digest. I still ate potatoes, honey, rice, etc. And I still cured my gluten intolerance, arthritis and chronic fatigue and constant sinus infections.

In short, do what works for you. Pay attention to your symptoms. And work with a GAPS practitioner if you need to. You should be seeing a steady elimination of symptoms and you should be making progress. If you’re not, something needs tweaking.

3. Question: Standard Process and Ovarian Cysts?

Dear Ann Marie,

I found your website while doing a google search for “mood swings after discontinuing Standard Process Products”. I plan to read it more thoroughly today.

To give you (somewhat short) background: I have been using Standard Process for the past 6 months to improve thyroid function, flush toxins from my liver, balance hormones, and improve allergies. I have felt great the past 6 months until my most recent menstrual cycle when ovarian cyst pain returned. I was out of commission for 36 hours due to extreme pain.

I have had this issue before and MD’s insisted I use birth control pills. I discontinued the birth control pills when I started the Standard Process. I prefer natural products and DO NOT like the idea of birth control pills & extra hormones.

I had hoped the Standard Process would take care of the ovarian cysts because it was balancing my hormones. When I started to research Standard Process I decided to discontinue using the products because I realized I was taking a lot of Bovine and it kind of grossed me out. The problem is that I have been having extreme mood swings (for me) the last two weeks and they seem to be more extreme as time goes by.

Obviously Standard Process was doing something for me even if it didn’t take care of the cyst pain.

How can using bovine hormones & liver be good for my body? I do not understand the science behind Standard Process even though I have searched the internet and asked my nutritionist.

Will you explain your understanding/nutritional philosophy using real foods to me? Do you understand how the bovine hormones affect our bodies? I would really appreciate it. I know I felt good and I know I do not want artificial hormones.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Amanda

Answer

First of all, as I always say, I’m not a doctor.

I don’t know what you are referring to when you say “bovine hormones”. Standard Process supplements contain real food and many of them contain bovine body parts (such as the liver or glands) — but not “bovine hormones”.

Eating the organs of animals helps us because the organs contain many nutrients. Organs like the liver and heart contain anywhere from 10-100 times the nutrients found in muscle meats.

You might look into iodine deficiency and cysts.

According to Dr. Jorges Flechas:

“Iodine deficiency may cause the ovaries to develop cysts nodules and scar tissue. At its worse this ovarian pathology is very similar to that of polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS). As of the writing of this article I have five PCOS patients. The patients have successfully been brought under control with the use of 50 mg of iodine per day. Control with these patients meaning cysts are gone, periods every 28 days and type 2 diabetes mellitus under control.” (Source)

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4. Question: Impacted Wisdom Tooth?

Hi, Ann Marie!

I am currently 17 years old and have followed a WAPF/Paleo blend diet for almost two years. I had lots of orthodontia as a child, but I’ve recently found out that one of my wisdom teeth is impacted. I supposed my eating nutrient dense food can’t correct generations of awful eating by my ancestors. My dentist advised me to just remove all my wisdom teeth, but all I could hear was your voice in my head saying, “Say NO to extractions!”

That’s exactly what I intend to do. I’ve been reading a lot of NCR as well as the Homeoblock device, and I’ve actually made an appointment with a holistic dentist that offers homeoblock. I’m thinking that if I can widen my palate, my wisdom teeth might be able to come in. I don’t want to exacerbate my narrow jawline by pulling my beloved wisdom teeth.

What are your thoughts about Homeoblock? Do you think it can help me? I think NCR will be more expensive and I think it is too radical for my parents to consider.

Julia

Answer

I would most definitely avoid extractions. I wish I had never had my wisdom teeth removed. When you extract teeth, the bones in the face collapse. It would be like if you pulled all the structural supports out from under a building. As a result, you can end up with all kinds of problems from worsening eyesight and hearing, premature aging and wrinkling (the bones in the face are there to keep the skin taut — when they collapse, your skin sags and wrinkles), sleep apnea, mental and behavioral problems (depression, anxiety, ADD, etc.).

I had a session with Dr. Dean Howell yesterday and I asked him your question.

He said the Homeoblock device works and you can even get it paid for with insurance. However, it’s important not to use it more than a few minutes a day. He says, for most people, the maximum amount of time to wear any dental appliance is somewhere around 5-7 minutes per day. He says that that most dentai/orthopedic appliances such as braces, head gear and palate expanders don’t work because people wear them for too long. If you put your body under stress, your body kicks into the sympathetic mode and builds scar tissue instead of bone. It can only build bone in the parasympathetic mode.

From Wikipedia:

“…the parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of “rest-and-digest” or “feed and breed” activities that occur when the body is at rest, including sexual arousal, salivation, lacrimation (tears), urination, digestion, and defecation. Its action is described as being complementary to that of one of the other main branches of the ANS, the sympathetic nervous system, which is responsible for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-flight response”

So take that into consideration if you do get the Homeoblock.

That said, I asked Dr. Howell, “What is the difference between the Homeoblock vs. the combination of NCR and the helmet that you use?” (He designed a special helmet for his patients that they were for a few minutes per day to pull the bones in the face.)

He said that the Homeoblock does work, but that NCR and the helmet combo work much faster. And he said that the Homeblock only works on the head/face and does not address issues with the whole body. When you do NCR, they do bodywork and you actually have your whole body realigned, which is really important because the skull sits on the spinal column and it all needs to be adjusted together.

By the way, Dr. Howell’s son had a very narrow palate and was told by his orthodontist that he would be able to expand his palate 2 millimeters with surgery and braces. Dr. Howell did NCR on his son and they expanded his palate I think it was either 12 or 22 millimeters (I didn’t write it down so I can’t remember… I’ll ask again today). His son never had to have his wisdom teeth out as a result.

My obvious preference is for NCR. Based on my research and personal interactions with Dr. Howell and his son, I think it is the very best treatment available.

You can contact Dr. Howell on his website and ask his assistant if she can refer you to someone who can help you.

5. Question: Long-Fermented Sourdough Bread?

Hi,

I have searched your website, but have not found info on “allows the bread to ferment for several days up to a month.” To ferment bread for a month, is the dough kept in the refrigerator?

Thanks,

Tony

Answer

This is in reference to this post: Top 10 Reasons to Eat Real Sourdough Bread.

Jack Bezian is a baker in Los Angeles. He has a method for fermenting his sourdough bread for several days up to a month. I don’t know his exact method but yes, it is fermented in the fridge.

6. Question: Kefir Question for You!

Smoothies seem to be one of the most popular ways to use kefir. However, wouldn’t all of the exposure to a metal blade in your blender kill all of the cultured probiotics in the drink?

I don’t want to go to all of the work of making kefir and daily smoothies for my family if there is little to no remaining probiotic benefit! Confused by how this is OK, but it it is, I can’t wait to make me some smoothies.

Thanks,
Jennifer

Answer

Probiotic or “good” bacteria is microscopic, so no, it is not damaged in any way by a metal blade.

7. Question: High Cholesterol and Statin Drugs?

A friend of mine just had a check-up and her cholesterol was 323. Of course, the doctor immediately put her on a statin. Her HDL was 65 and her triglycerides were 195. What would you do in this case?

Linda Sue

Answer

I would never go on a statin drug.

See this article: Do You Really Need That Statin? This Expert Says No.

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Julia October 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Thanks so much for all your feedback Ann Marie! I consulted a “holistic dentist” who offered Homeoblock this week, but he completely did not understand what I was trying to say. He said I should just get my wisdom teeth pulled because Homeoblock will not help them come in. I don’t know if that’s true, but I also contacted Dr. Howell’s assistant this week. We’ve been emailing back and forth. His method is really interesting and I would really love to try it; in addition to an impacted wisdom tooth, I have astigmatism, poor eyesight, and a narrow face. I only wish I had those bulging cheekbones! The November session in NYC is booked up, but I am considering signing up for the December session (and paying with my own money. My dad would not be happy to pay more money to “fix” my face after years and thousands of dollars of orthodontia). I just really need to get my mom on board, but she still doesn’t really understand why I need to improve my facial structure. I’m also a little nervous about that endonasal balloon. How has your experience been so far? Your approval of Dr. Howell is really significant and I would love to hear about your experience!

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cheeseslave October 28, 2012 at 11:40 AM

“He said I should just get my wisdom teeth pulled because Homeoblock will not help them come in.”

That makes no sense. The Homeoblock and NCR help to widen the palate, which will give the wisdom teeth room to come in.

I don’t mind the balloon. Our daughter hates it but she’s 5. It doesn’t hurt. It’s just weird.

I hope you get to go to see him! It’s life changing!

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Julia October 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I know! He completely misunderstood what I was asking about Homeoblock. But whatever. He also had no idea who Weston A Price was, so I should have known. He also said that I should stop “overanalyzing” and just pull the teeth. How extremely off-base. NCR is the best option anyway. I hope to make an appointment with him during his December NYC session. Have any of your families noticed an impact from NCR yet? It is quite expensive so I don’t know how many sessions I will be able to do.

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Julia October 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Ooops. Family members. Typo.

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cheeseslave October 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM

@Julia

I honestly believe that most dentists are doing more harm than good. So sad.

We’ve only been doing NCR for 2 months (Seth is on his 3rd session, Kate her 2nd, and this is my first). Kate’s jaw is starting to straighten a little and her forehead is a little less flat.

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Julia October 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

You’re lucky that you are near Santa Monica; there are fewer sessions in NYC. But hopefully I can make the December session. Will you, Seth, or Kate be using facemax? I have some info from Dr. Howell’s assistant about it, but it does cost extra and I’m not sure it’s absolutely necessary.

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cheeseslave October 29, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Is “facemax” his helmet? Yes, we will — Seth is already using the helmet.

I asked Dr. Howell who needs the helmet and he said anyone who has had teeth extracted.

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Julia October 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM

I guess I will see if I need the helmet during my own session. I haven’t had any teeth extracted, so I’m not sure. Interestingly, my brother had to have two teeth pulled when he was younger because they were too crowded, but all his wisdom teeth already came in perfectly and he is only 15! Lucky guy.

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Jeanmarie October 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

I didn’t see a definition of what NCR is. I had my wisdom teeth removed a few years ago, when I was already in my 40s, and it knocked me flat for about a week. They were causing me a lot of pain, though. I wish I’d known more about dentistry then. I was just getting into Weston Price at the time, or maybe it was a little before that, and I didn’t know there were other options. Sigh. So is NCR something anyone who has ever had a tooth removed should have? Or just wisdom teeth? Well I qualify in both respects.

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Olivia October 28, 2012 at 10:30 AM

don’t get your wisdom teeth out! the dentist will try to get you to do it, of course, because its 3k in their pocket. i got mine out at 19 because we thought it might be the cause of a repeating throat infection (got my tonsils out too because of it) my wisdom teeth were very impacted and coming in crooked but not really causing any problems besides soreness of nearby teeth and wanting to wiggle them around with my hands. (i’m pretty sure the throat infections kept coming back because i was eating extremely SAD and was an unbelievable pothead) Anyway, I got all 4 wisdom teeth out and to this day I have slight numbness on the right side of lower lip and chin. (it’s been over 3 years) that is one of the many risks. and now i am hearing that it will basically cause you to age prematurely and all these problems…sigh… not sure if i believe in chiropractors though, will have to look into it further.

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Julia October 28, 2012 at 10:36 AM

I will NOT get any of my wisdom teeth removed. I refuse. My friend recently had hers out, and the pain she was in was really frightening to me. Only 12 % of impacted wisdom teeth that are not removed ever cause any future problems anymore! Wisdom teeth removal causes a LOT more medical problems, as you said. Still, I am really hoping to look more into NCR to see if it can help my wisdom teeth come in properly.

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Laura N. November 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Olivia, me too! My wisdom teeth were extracted when I was 17, and I am now 37 and have not been able to feel the right half of my tongue for 20 years. I’m sorry to say that you are unlikely to get much or any sensation back in the numb areas. :-(

The place I went for the surgery was terrible, treating me like a number and making fun of me for being nervous about the anesthesia. I asked to see my teeth afterward, and they said no, the teeth were crushed up into tiny pieces before being extracted. Seems to me they weren’t exactly being careful not to damage my nerve. I guess I can just be glad they didn’t cause even *more* numbness in my face.

Had I known that all this was unnecessary, I would have refused the entire thing, but I got my braces off finally, was X-rayed, then told that my wisdom teeth had to come out or it would mess up all those years of expensive orthodontics. I felt like I had no choice. And guess what? My teeth are no longer as straight as they were. I want my mouth back, and I want my parents to have their money back.

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Adrienne October 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

The homeoblock info is very interesting. Is it considered to be more gentle than braces? I was told that orthodontia would be too aggressive for me now. Thanks.

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Jackie October 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM

about the impacted teeth… I have 3 impacted (I only have three) and one has part way broken through. since it has broken through I have had bad jaw pain on the opposite side and an easily swollen lymph node on the side with the exposed tooth. not much is showing but I am worried about bacteria building up.

Opinions?

Jackie

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cheeseslave October 29, 2012 at 8:54 AM

@Jackie

If it were me, I’d call Dr. Howell and start getting treated with NCR to widen your jaw so those teeth can come in properly

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Annie October 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Anne Marie,

Isn’t Jack Bezian at the Santa Monica farmers market on weds?
If so, do you know where that F.M. is located?
Or is Jack somewhere else?
(My Hubby is in S.M. this week. I need him to buy me Jacks bread.)

In S.F.Ca, there is also a man that makes Sourdough Bread.
He makes his own type of sourdough, same as Jack.
I think that info about his bread is in the Sunset Magazine!

Thank you,
Annie

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cheeseslave October 29, 2012 at 8:55 AM

I heard a rumor that he was being kicked out of the Santa Monica market. Not sure why.

I believe he’s still at the Hollywood market on Sundays though.

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Amy October 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Linda Sue, very high cholesterol can also be caused by hypothyroid conditions. Statins do not address the root cause. Your friend should have a thorough thyroid panel.

On the wisdom tooth subject, I am so pissed that mine were taken out. I didn’t know enough back then to understand that it wasn’t necessary or desirable. I will say my face definitely narrowed a bit afterwards.

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cheeseslave October 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

@Amy

Thanks, good point about the thyroid – that is true!

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Dutchie October 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Is it actually possible to make a gluten-free sourdough starter using some kind of glutenfree flour of choice,water and apple cider vinegar? (and after a couple of days,then what? do you bake the stuff?)

I miss bread so much…..although accrding to my energetic-therapist it’s best for me to follow an anti-funghal diet (no bread/yeast,carbs/sugars,dairy etc.) bc I’m dealing with lots of funghi/yeasts,parasites etc.
I’ve gotten so much ‘food issues’ bc of all of this,macro issues/vs types of food,exercise issues,fear of having to gain weight/fat etc :(

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cheeseslave October 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM

@Dutchie

Yes there is a woman who wrote a whole book on it

http://artofgluten-freesourdoughbaking.com/

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Jeanmarie October 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM

On item #7, the triglycerides level is much scarier than the cholesterol level! And the HDL is on the low side. These can all be fixed in most cases with a reduction in excess carbohydrates and increase in good fats, plus adequate protein. Exercise also increases HDL.

The problem with the doctor is, he/she is treating a number, not a disease. High total cholesterol is not a disease, and it is meaningless in and of itself. The high triglycerides and moderate HDL give more information. At best, it is a symptom of whatever inflammation, metabolic syndrome or other metabolic disturbances are going on. If the doctor “treats” the number, especially with a statin drug, the “cure” will be worse. The diet is out of balance. I’d advise your friend to find a holistic physician, or at least one that will agree to monitor her without trying to force her to go on statins. And the thing is, no doctor can make you take a drug against your will. She has the right to turn it down. Or fire the doctor. And you can always accept a prescription, the piece of paper, without getting it filled or taking the pills.

Another thing for your friend to consider is that no study has ever shown benefit to *women* by taking statins. Women and men aren’t identical, and only middle-aged men with previous heart attacks have shown *any* (albeit not much ) benefit from statins, and the mechanism of action is probably that they reduce inflammation, not the artificial lowering of cholesterol. (And by “benefit from statins” I mean fewer heart attacks, but actually no reduction in deaths overall.) Cholesterol is an important substance that is vital to health. If blood levels are very high, it means something is out of whack, but cholesterol is not our enemy. Chris Masterjohn and Chris Kresser have both written a lot about the need for cholesterol and how to understand the conflicting advice out there. Chris Kresser also has a “high cholesterol action plan” to help people who actually may need to reduce their cholesterol, but he takes a very scientific, holistic approach. http://highcholesterolplan.chriskresser.com or find the link on http://www.chriskresser.com.

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cheeseslave October 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Thanks, Jeanmarie – great information!

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Jeanmarie October 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM

And great job on #1! Support Prop 37 if you’re a California voter!

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Mary @ Homemade Dutch Apple Pie October 30, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Great Q/As. I have a couple quick questions.

1. That is fascinating info about probiotics being the key thing for GAPS. I used them on and off the whole time I did GAPS but didn’t notice any help. Do you think a different brand might make a difference? I used Biokult.

2. Have you ever heard of histamine intolerance? I have such a problem with fermented foods and even cultured foods. They seem to make me feel worse instead of better…even after giving them a long time for adjustment, etc. So I’m wondering if this could be a problem. Just curious if you know anything about it.

Thanks.

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cheeseslave October 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM

@Mary

1. That is fascinating info about probiotics being the key thing for GAPS. I used them on and off the whole time I did GAPS but didn’t notice any help. Do you think a different brand might make a difference? I used Biokult.

Biokult works in my experience. You may not have taken enough for a long enough period of time.

2. Have you ever heard of histamine intolerance? I have such a problem with fermented foods and even cultured foods. They seem to make me feel worse instead of better…even after giving them a long time for adjustment, etc. So I’m wondering if this could be a problem. Just curious if you know anything about it.

That sounds like die-off. Go slower with the fermented foods/probiotics and gradually build up. You can google “die off”.

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Mary @ Homemade Dutch Apple Pie October 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Hmm…I took 2 biokult a day for a good 6 months and didn’t notice much. Maybe I need more than that?

Trust me, I know die off. I’ve been through it way too many times. It sucks. One week after adding in something cultured/fermented I have 2 weeks of misery. But I don’t seem to ever adjust to fermented foods. I can have them in my diet for months and add them slowly but I still don’t feel good. One sip of any alcohol and my whole body tenses up/I feel yucky (been that way since my first taste of alcohol years ago…I avoid it completely). I can’t even tolerate much vanilla :P That’s how sensitive I am. I can hardly handle any vinegar. Maybe my gut is so bad that I need to start with 1/4 tsp. at a time and go VERY slowly. It’s just confusing b/c I don’t seem to ever adjust. That’s why I thought histamine intolerance sounded like something that might explain it.

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cheeseslave October 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Hmm… that’s not a very long time. I was taking a lot of probiotics for 2 years when I healed. And yeah, you may need more.

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Jennifer @ 20 something allergies and counting...down November 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Mary,

It is likely that you are eating foods that are causing a constant immune response so your body is in ‘fight’ mode too often. We follow a grain-free rotation diet as part of our healing protocol and are starting to incorporate Traditional Chinese Medicine, and it has made a huge difference for us. I have found that most people’s circumstances are too unique to be able to follow one diet ‘prescription’.

A friend of mine’s daughter has a significant histamine intolerance. You may find some help in this post (though I don’t feel the product she uses is the only answer): http://www.lovingourguts.com/anaerobic-fermentation-our-gaps-missing-piece/.

Best of luck!

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Mary @ Homemade Dutch Apple Pie November 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM

If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of rotation diet are you on? I know I struggle with eating the same things over and over. I need more variety/need more rotation. But I tend to find something that “works” and just keep eating it…until it doesn’t seem to work anymore. Then I guess what to try next.

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Jennifer @ 20 something allergies and counting...down November 2, 2012 at 3:30 PM

It’s one that I created for our GAPS/Primal-style diet based on allergy tests we had done. We eat each a food only once in a 96 hour period (but occasionally fall off the wagon). Foods that we don’t have any reaction to can occasionally be eaten more often, but that’s pretty rare. It’s easier to stick with the same rules for all food.

Feel free to come over to my ‘home’ and see what we do if you’d like to learn more (http://www.20somethingallergies.com/category/rotation-diet-menu-plans/).

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mm November 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM

You should read up on histamine intolerance and histadelia, it’s not die off, and people with these problems get very, very sick on ferments.

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Mary @ Homemade Dutch Apple Pie November 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Thank you both, Jennifer and mm. Jennifer, I’m finally starting to figure some things out recently. I eat well, my body starts some healing, then I go through die off and feel rotten and give in to cravings/bad things. Then I have to start all over. It’s a vicious cycle that leaves me guessing. So what you are saying makes a lot of sense. I did do GAPS for about 10 months, so I’ve done grain free. I was dairy free for a while as well. Now I’m just playing a big guessing game…but hopefully making some progress. It’s hard to know if the probiotics/cultured/fermented foods are helpin and I just need a really long time to adjust or if it is something like histamine intolerance and when I keep trying them they are doing more harm than good. I know everyone is different, but I like to ask about others’ experience to see if I can get any more insight or get new information. Thanks!!

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Jennifer @ 20 something allergies and counting...down October 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

GREAT job on the Q & A’s this week AM!

I’m very intrigued on the cranial work you are all having done. That’s one of our next steps. Keep us all updated on how things are going!

I’m sure readers would love to see some ‘before’ pics of the three of you and then subsequent ones as you progress. Once I have our healing protocol balanced between WAPF and TCM, I will get started and try to find a practitioner around my area (metro Detroit).

Fun stuff. :)

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cheeseslave October 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM

I will keep you posted!

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Kaitlyn November 6, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Well i am so disappointed that i have gotten my bottom wisdom teethe out already. Should i leave the top ones in then?

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Jenny November 18, 2012 at 8:12 PM

This is a question that’s at the forefront of my mind at the moment, too! I just saw my dentist, and he tried to scare me into getting my upper wisdom teeth out (“I just removed a 50 year-old’s wisdom teeth; if you wait until then, they will cause you lots of pain! And be even more difficult and more painful to remove! Blah blah blah!”). I’m assuming that we should be keeping them in, although perhaps also looking for NCR. Unfortunately, NCR professionals seem hard to find – at the very least, it doesn’t look like there are any in my area (Vancouver, BC). ): Best of luck to both you and I, Kaitlyn!

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M November 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Hi Ann Marie,

I was looking into Standard Process and in regard to the above question about bovine thyroid I am confused also. The Thytrophin PMG ingredient list includes bovine thyroid PMG extract. Is that not thyroid?

Thank you Michelle

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